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More loss
« on: January 07, 2022, 09:00:29 PM »
Singer (leading light of The Great Folk Scare), actor (first Black to win the Oscar for Best Actor), and activist Sidney Poitier died Thursday at age 94.  Truly a giant.


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« Reply #1 on: January 07, 2022, 09:52:25 PM »
He made some great films, but a singer he was not.   Just saw a story on him.   He was completely tone deaf.  He lip synced in “Lilies of the Field”.   

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« Reply #2 on: January 07, 2022, 10:26:03 PM »
He made some great films, but a singer he was not.   Just saw a story on him.   He was completely tone deaf.  He lip synced in “Lilies of the Field”.   

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Oops - you are, of course, correct; for some insane reason, when I thought of Poitier, I saw Harry Belafonte's ruffled calypso shirt......

Boy, is my face red!

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« Reply #3 on: January 08, 2022, 01:56:41 AM »
Yes really sad news about Sydney Poitier passing away. As a young boy I remember being engrossed in his films when they came on TV and sadly also experienced some of the same prejudices as his characters. What a Legend.
We have a local singer who changed her first name to Sydney when she turned professional as a mark of respect to him.
R.I.P.

PS:Peter, I think you are fortunate that Samuel L Jackson isn't a member of the forum. :-)
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« Reply #4 on: January 09, 2022, 12:54:17 AM »
Sad news but 94 is a good run...my Dad after his heart attack said to his Doc "ya gotta get me to a hundred!" to which he replied "Ya don't wanna do that, the wheels fall off pretty soon after eighty..." means I might only have a few more years or so with him around; that sucks to think...Tony

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« Reply #5 on: January 09, 2022, 02:57:32 AM »
Sad news but 94 is a good run...my Dad after his heart attack said to his Doc "ya gotta get me to a hundred!" to which he replied "Ya don't wanna do that, the wheels fall off pretty soon after eighty..." means I might only have a few more years or so with him around; that sucks to think...Tony

We all are headed to the same finish line.

RIP Mr. Poitier.  He truly was influential. 

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« Reply #6 on: January 09, 2022, 09:22:13 AM »
Sad news but 94 is a good run...my Dad after his heart attack said to his Doc "ya gotta get me to a hundred!" to which he replied "Ya don't wanna do that, the wheels fall off pretty soon after eighty..." means I might only have a few more years or so with him around; that sucks to think...Tony

My dad turned 90 in June; the wheels may not have fallen off, but they're getting pretty darn wobbly.  I am amazed by any day that passes & I don't get The Call.

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« Reply #7 on: January 09, 2022, 10:07:56 AM »
My mom will be 97 in June.   She keeps telling me “Don’t worry.  I’m healthy, I’m just old”.   She was still living on her own until a year and a half ago.   While her memory isn’t so great, her mind is otherwise still basically there.  My dad passed away at 84 after suffering from Alzheimers for a couple of years.  That was a horror show.

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« Reply #8 on: January 09, 2022, 11:28:38 AM »
My mom will be 97 in June.   She keeps telling me “Don’t worry.  I’m healthy, I’m just old”.   She was still living on her own until a year and a half ago.   While her memory isn’t so great, her mind is otherwise still basically there.  My dad passed away at 84 after suffering from Alzheimers for a couple of years.  That was a horror show.

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My great-grandpa had Alzheimer's; lived to be 97 - but had no idea who or where he was the last 4-5 years.  Pap (his son, my grandfather) always said "I don't care when I go, just so I don't go like the old man."

He went like the old man; you could see the terror of it in his eyes, at least until he was so far gone he no longer knew he was going.  Died at 88; physically, he was still strong as horse.

His wife made it to 96 with her mind intact (my mom would have interjected "At least as intact as it ever was"), but the last several years she was just a catalog of physical infirmities.

I always hoped for his physical health and her mental health - but alas, it doesn't seem destined to be........

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« Reply #9 on: January 10, 2022, 07:08:19 AM »
My father passed from Parkinson’s just over 3 years ago, similar dementia to Alzheimer’s but less ‘aggressive’ behaviors.  Serious physical degradation as well as mental, his mind took him on frequent pleasant trips, he had friends and would travel and tell me where he went… a lot of the places were ‘recall memories’ and he sounded like he enjoyed all of it, he wasn’t disturbed, confused or frightened by his ‘altered reality’ and the best part was through it all he never forgot who I was when I would see him.  <3

Mom just passed last December 17th,  she was 87, breast cancer survivor, artificial heart valve replacement two years ago and then liver cancer popped up.  She decided that she lived long enough and with Dad being gone she was ready to “walk towards the Horizon with god holding her hand”.  No cancer treatment just pain management.  Unfortunately my Mom’s mind was very sharp.. too sharp.  She thought and worried about unnecessary things and with that she was resistant to pain medication because she didn’t like a cloudy mind.  Fortunately her light tapered off quickly and her pain is now gone.

Interestingly enough, Parkinson’s made my fathers ‘journey to the horizon’ a very long drawn out one, years upon years of mental and physical decline.  All through it I thought I was ready for his passing.  When he did die I was very very sad.   Meanwhile with Mom the cancer diagnose was only months ago and she seemed “fine” until the last several weeks.  Her passing for me is nearly a moot point, either I am in denial of my grief, or my mothers acceptance of her fate (which I admire greatly) has brought solace OR the fact that dealing with my siblings with moms approaching death had such a juxtaposition to how the family behaved with dads death that I am glad to not have to deal with their BS anymore…

As cold as it sounds the later holds weight - I live the closest to Mom and Dad, I visited with Dad frequently when he was in the nursing/ hospice facility and we had casual and very enjoyable visits.  With Mom there was a delay getting her into a nursing/hospice environment and siblings were putting out directives for expectations of visits and care.  Countless scheduled Zoom calls, messaging, emails, agenda’s, charts and 8 x 10 glossy pictures with circles and arrows on them… not the last part, but you get the idea.  Meanwhile I just started a new job, two of my brothers and sister are retired…. Not saying they don’t have their own lives to live… but there was a high level of doting over Mom’s “visitations” and expectations of someone being with her, where with Dad there was nothing discussed about ‘who will be with Dad from Monday to Wednesday?’ or any concern if he was feeling alone. I would just pop in several times a week and we would have nice discussions… sometimes obscure ones!  :)

Mom required physical assistance prior to finding an opening at a nursing/hospice facility.   Hiring ‘at home’ nursing care was a viable option because my parents were frugal and have the fiscal ability to cover that.  Two of my siblings were firm on their position that she needed family to care for her…. well guess which family member lives 25 minutes away compared to the next closest being 2 hours away?  Guess which family member felt pressure, felt disregarded and discounted when opinions were asked about availability for care options?  Guess which family member adjusted their new work schedule to accommodate 24 hour care?

“Family” is interesting, we are bound by blood, but at what point is blood truly thicker than water?  At what point is it ok to leave them behind?  I have 4 siblings, after what we have gone through and now that our parents are gone there is only 1 brother that has exhibited decency, understanding and compassion.  He is shunned and other siblings speak poorly of him behind his back… he is a very good friend of mine and I love him.   Two of my remains siblings I would like to tell them to pound sand.  The last sibling retired and living on the west coast for decades, has been rather detached throughout the whole process, offering flippant attitude, comments and jokes during Zoom calls about how “we” should handle things makes me want for him to fade away also.


Pretty sure I should seek therapy.  Feeling like I just got a free session here with my “Other Family”.
I always appreciate this community. 


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« Reply #10 on: January 10, 2022, 07:58:19 AM »
... Feeling like I just got a free session here with my “Other Family”.
I always appreciate this community.


It is indeed a pretty special community.  And thank you for sharing your story.

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« Reply #11 on: January 10, 2022, 08:14:18 AM »
My mom will be 97 in June.   She keeps telling me “Don’t worry.  I’m healthy, I’m just old”.   She was still living on her own until a year and a half ago.   While her memory isn’t so great, her mind is otherwise still basically there.  My dad passed away at 84 after suffering from Alzheimers for a couple of years.  That was a horror show.

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My dad passed away at 76 from cancer and still had one of the sharpest minds I've known at the time of his death. We were not real close while I was growing up but as we both grew older we found some common ground. For the last couple of months I went to help mom take care of him and while a sad time I'm glad my job allowed me the opportunity to do that.

My mom is 93 and had been living on her own until last September. She is somewhere in-between early and mid stage dementia. She also has major problems getting around due to rheumatoid arthritis. Basically at a doctor's checkup last summer the doctor told her it was time to look into some type of assisted living arrangement. She was not happy about that. She was told she didn't have to rush but she had the choice of finding a facility or live-in help on her own or she could wait for protective services to decide for her and lose all control over the decision. In-home aid was out as she has gotten rid of all the people my sister and I have hired in the past to help her around the house and to take her on errands. This meant a facility. She found one she thought acceptable and has a nice two room apartment. As the dementia progresses they have rooms where she can get a higher level of care. She has been active in facility events and activities and we have seen an improvement in some of her cognitive abilities as a result of being around more people. At this point it is more or less a waiting game on the progression of the dementia for my sister and I. Other than trying to oversee mom's care while also trying to let her keep control over her life there isn't much we can do but watch and wait. That last bit is easier for me than my sister who is the type that needs a well laid out plan and flawless execution of the plan.
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« Reply #12 on: January 11, 2022, 01:18:03 AM »
I was going to apologize for derailing this thread accidentally, but it seems a lot of us have stories that needed airing; my mother was only 3 years older than I am now when she died, which is kinda freaky but she smoked and drank heavily her whole life...amazingly none of us kids are damaged by it, but I wonder about myself sometimes...I have gaps, emotional and otherwise, but wonder if nature or nurture...I hope Dad gets a good long run, which he probably will as his dad did and his sister has too...Tony

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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2022, 06:34:01 AM »
See how inspirational Sidney was?  Thanks for relating your stories we all are part of that club.  Life is different when your parents are not there any more.

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« Reply #14 on: January 16, 2022, 06:17:26 PM »
See how inspirational Sidney was?  Thanks for relating your stories we all are part of that club.  Life is different when your parents are not there any more.




😃. True, very true.