If you look at the list price of a new unit ($3800) and include the discounts one can get from dealers, its just about the same price or maybe even higher. One would REALLY need to be into vintage (a red rather than black knobs) to lay down that much cash for this unit. Now although that might make sense if you were talking about manufacturers whose quality of product has gone downhill over the years, that just isn't the case with Alembic where quality has been maintained (or improved). There is a exercise equipment company around here that sells used gear and their slogan is..."Why buy new when used with do?" in this case, I think that slogan needs to be turned around.