Question for the NRPS devotees

[hankster]

Hi all, I need some help.


My brother and I have both misplaced our original vinyl copies of Powerglide.  The earliest iteration of that record had a studio version of "Hello Mary Lou".  Later iterations, and virtually every streaming or digital download platform, have replaced the studio version with a live version.  Here's the question - on the original studio version of "Hello Mary Lou" was there a II - V turnaround on the last "hello Mary Lou" of the chorus (just before "goodbye heart")?.  We are trying to figure out if we missed the turnaround and have been playing it wrong OUR WHOLE LIVES  or if the studio version didn't include the turnaround.  An obscure question I know.  But if anyone would know, it would be this crowd.


Many thanks.  All of you now have an excuse to dig out your original vinyl Powerglide and listen to, among other things, the incredible Buddy Cage pedal steel solo.

[edwardofhuncote]

No help on NRPS version, but I wish I had a dollar for every time I played that 2-5 turnaround on the outro with my Dad's bluegrass-coutry band. No earthly idea where they got it from, and and the old bandleader who could absolutely have told me is dead many years now.

*Just drawing on what I remember of Kenneth, I'll make a wild guess Statler Bros.

[JimmyJ]

This sounds like the studio version.  Is it different from the live one? 
Just acting as a research assistant here, I don't know much about the band. 


Jimmy J

[hankster]

Thanks Jimmy!


That's the live version - sounds like a studio, sort of, maybe straight out of the board but it's the one that replaced the studio version on all the available digital copies of that album (strange but true).  still a kicking' solo from Buddy.

[lbpesq]

While I would suggest that there is no “right” or “wrong” way to play it,  most of the tabs on line show the II IV turnaround.   And for what it’s worth, Mr. Nelson appears to end with the II  IV.   Nice James Burton lead in this one, too.

Bill, tgo

[hankster]

False alarm - tracked down the original and the so-called live version turns out to be a universally mislabeled studio version - Jimmy’s ears are right. And the II - V change is there. How embarrassing all round. Thanks all. And Bill, that James Burton work with Ricky Nelson was awesome!

[Glynn]

The 2-5 sequence is pretty standard, as you say, in a lot of straightforward tunes but out of fun I found a version by Queen at Wembley Stadium July 1986 and guess what??? 2-5.
Glynn

[lbpesq]

While I would suggest that there is no “right” or “wrong” way to play it,  most of the tabs on line show the II IV turnaround.   And for what it’s worth, Mr. Nelson appears to end with the II  IV.   Nice James Burton lead in this one, too.

Bill, tgo

Ooops!  I meant the II - V change.  That’s what’s in the tabs and what Ricky plays.  Yet another Emily Litella moment!

Bill, tgo

[cozmik_cowboy]

I could name a few that were is his equal (John Call, Bobby Black, Pete Kleinow, Rusty Young, etc.), but I can't think of anyone better than Buddy Cage on pedal steel.  The man was amazing!

Peter

[lbpesq]

I submit that Sneaky Pete had one item on his resume that lifted him above all others ... he wrote the original “Gumby” theme!

Bill, tgo

[cozmik_cowboy]

I did not know that!

Peter

[lbpesq]

He worked as a stop motion animator on a bunch of TV and movie stuff and worked with Art Clokey on both “Gumby” and “Davy & Goliath”.   I went to a Gumby-fest at the old U.C. Theater in Berkeley over 30 years ago where Art Clokey’s wife told stories and answered questions.   Kleinow also did the dinosaurs in “Caveman” starring Ringo Starr.

Bill, tgo

[hankster]

Buddy was great. His work with Amos Garrett and David Wilcox, together in the Great Speckled Bird, was as good as it gets.

[cozmik_cowboy]

That is so cool, Bill!

And upon further cogitation, I have decided that the onliest one of the hippie-country steel players who wasn't top-notch was Steve "The West Virginia Creeper" Davis (founding Lost Planet Airman, replaced by Black after the 1st album).  He was OK - but only until you stack against the other guys.

Peter

[hankster]

Just so.