Author Topic: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?  (Read 849 times)

jazzyvee

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How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« on: April 18, 2021, 05:16:19 AM »
If like me, you didn’t but your alembic as a custom order was what you bought close to what you would have ordered if it was?  If not did you convert it or could you?


My 5 string series II Europa is the nearest to what i would like for a custom 5 string. The only things i would change is to have a bass boost switch like a standard europa/rogue but i would like to choose the boost frequency via an internal pot to from 100hz and below. Which is what i do with my SF-2. Also cosmetically, i would tone down the quilted maple with a dark tint or change the top laminate to coco bolo, or another figured dark wood like walnut or madagascar ebony etc. An inlay at 12th fret and backlit alembic logo inlay. That’s pretty much it.
« Last Edit: April 18, 2021, 06:06:00 AM by jazzyvee »
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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #1 on: April 18, 2021, 05:53:02 AM »
There are two things that I would do for my Alembics: (1) add side LED markers; and (2) change the long scales to medium scale.  Otherwise, they are perfect!  :)

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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #2 on: April 18, 2021, 06:32:36 AM »
I based a lot of the specs for the Custom on a used one I like a LOT.


I probably shouldn't name names, but some advice I got was; If you can find 90% of what you want already built, go for that. I dunno about that though. That other 10% could be the difference for some of us. For me, it would depend on what was missing from my ideal, and could it be easily upgraded. There are things I can do myself, or have done locally and be okay with, and others I just simply am not comfortable with anybody other than Alembic working on, particularly the electronics. At some point if you are down to specifics, it just becomes easier to have Alembic build exactly what you want.


I'm among friends here, so not really letting the cat outta' the bag, but I have plans on a Custom guitar going now. Knowing where the finish line is, knowing exactly what you want built... there are a thousand decisions. Some are made for you, by other choices you make, but a lot of it is what I call 'windshield time deliberation'. (spend a lot of time at work, driving and thinking, I'd rather be playing guitar...)


 

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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #3 on: April 18, 2021, 07:58:32 AM »
Short answer  = yes.

Long answer (because I am my father’s son and he was a rather “wordy” individual)
I walked into Ralph Hanzel’s and there was a Distillate hanging on the wall on the second floor... 
Stan was (is) The Man for me and seeing the Distillate, which if you squint and tilt your head, it kinda sorta resembles The Brown Bass and it had me infatuated.

I bought that Distillate.  It did not capture all of the tones that I heard from Stan.  It certainly did NOT make me play like Stan. 

But this bass, my bass,  was crafted by Craftspeople with a focused attention to detail and circuitry developed by a Wizard.  Dream bass?  There is a strong argument for saying yes.  35 years of ownership brings a depth to any relationship.

Case in point; we purchased a broken down, neglected farm property in Northern Wisconsin six years ago.  (Long story shortened slightly).  I literally didn’t touch my Distillate for the majority of that time period.  My focus pulled to things that “needed” to get done.   Recently an old band mate decided he wanted to re-record some of our songs from some 40 years ago from when we were playing in the guitarists parents basement.   

Some of the songs were pre-Alembic and some are more recent.  With COVID we are doing everything remotely.  I was very tentative approaching this project as my chops were nothing more than a fuzzy memory.   Enter the Distillate...  she felt like home.  No lie my fingers did NOT toy with the notes up and down the neck.  The bumbled and stumble, and hurt and blistered (even a blood blister!).  I sit in the basement with a DI, a Zoom H4N and my Distillate.  Hunched over rediscovering that which once was...

Today, my callouses are somewhat redeveloped, my fingers are reacting to the patterns in my head and succinctly executing said patterns, and that sweet tone.  The tone of an Alembic Distillate that not only augments my parts but actually inspires my playing.  I find myself going into ‘unchartered waters’ with passages that actually make me giggle!  Being able to “perform” music again, to tap into the creative part of my brain while using the Distillate as a paint brush is the definition of Joy for me.

If I had never set my bass down for that brief hiatus would I be as over the moon as I am right now?  I’m leaning towards a No on that.  But here I am, very happy with my first Alembic.   More than happy - grateful and not in need of anything more.  I have played an SC at the Chicago Gathering (when’s part II?), I played #12 there also and easily a half dozen other Alembics.  I got to ‘try to play’ Edwin’s Series bass (don’t recall if it was a I or II) the sensitivity of the tonal palette controls was overwhelming and intimidating.  All great instruments and all ‘better’ than a Distillate.


When I win the lotto the stable WILL grow. 
Right now?

I’m good.  ;D


Paul (who somewhere has a picture from Chicago with John playing ‘slide bass’ with a Bass bottle on my Distillate 8) )


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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #4 on: April 18, 2021, 11:31:46 AM »
It took me about 6 years to track down my 2016 long-scale Balance K Series II bass. It was almost exactly what I would have ordered, I was looking for either a Walnut or Cocobolo top. If I had ordered a bass it would have been hard to decide between the two so I am more than happy to have found one in Walnut that I really liked. I also was hoping for an ebony laminate and side LEDS, the bass has both. The only thing I would change, and it really isn't that important, is a logo upgrade to the inlaid logo with shell and possibly abalone inlays instead of MOP. The bass sounds fantastic and is quite beautiful I never pick it up and have a "what if this was different" moment.

My 78  Series five-string is another story. I don't feel comfortable playing medium scale basses, and the early five-strings were basically built with four-string necks so the neck and string spacing are too tight for me. I still really like the bass and am glad I own it but knowing what I know now it is the wrong bass for me, I certainly would not order the same thing.

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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #5 on: April 01, 2023, 05:42:41 AM »
As a Luthier , I've built 4 Alembic inspired dream customs for myself, while I'm proud of them .. my used 1985 Persuader still takes the cake.

My lifetime dream custom is a Tribute with my wolf logo inlaid on the bottom oval and wolf paw print fretmarkers in turquoise,Body in master grade curly Koa , with a Pernambuco neck /brazillian rw fretboard...still waiting on the lotto for that one...
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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #6 on: April 06, 2023, 11:21:28 AM »
RV_Bass, my ideal series 1 is close to what you want: Medium scale, side leds, but also selector switch close to pickup area. A nice orange/reddish koa would be nice too.
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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #7 on: April 06, 2023, 12:50:34 PM »
This one is really flipping close!

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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2023, 06:47:04 AM »
Well, I've worked my way up to something that is very close to a dream custom. It's got a bunch of the Alembic stuff that I love - cool headstock (the Bishop), ebony 'board with inlays, brass bridge block, bird tailpiece, neck through with purpleheart stringers, and filter with Q switch. And it's got a couple other things I really wanted - 32'' scale and a bass boost switch. Add to that a beautiful gloss finish with satin neck on an Exploiter body. I would prefer a pan versus the pickup selector, and a second filter would be nice, but I'm in pretty good shape as-is. A custom would probably have a bookmatched to center flame maple top in trans purple, but the flamed koa on mine is pretty spectacular, so no complaints there. I'm pretty sure this is a forever bass!

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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #9 on: April 27, 2023, 03:47:35 AM »
Sonically ... 100%    I still dream of a Cocobolo Little Darling though ...
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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #10 on: April 27, 2023, 06:32:02 AM »
I've got a long scale Series I.  If I could:
Quilted maple top & back rather birds eye maple,
LED fret markers,
& ebony neck laminates.
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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2023, 05:12:45 AM »
this as the nearest i could find to my ideal custom frettless bass on the used market.  if i wasn't 67 years old and didn't have (another) small fortune to spend i'd have one made.  so this one comes as close as i'm ever gonna get im afraid.  it's missing a B string and series II electronics but other than that it's pretty much all there.

Been down...now i'm out!

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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2023, 10:52:34 AM »
Although not a bass , everything else is perfect ..and they just dropped the price $2K
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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2023, 12:27:32 PM »
Love a heart omega (and a regular omega, and a stinger omega, and a standard point and no point and....)

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Re: How close is your used bass to your dream custom?
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2023, 04:15:40 PM »
My ideal Alembic is the flat sawn zebra or Koa, medium scale series 2 with the pickup selector
near the other controls and the neck pickup set back about an inch so I have space to pop.
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