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Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« on: September 26, 2020, 07:06:31 AM »

I don't know what's gotten into me lately. I am a bass player, through-and-through. Years ago, I learned to play rhythm guitar a little bit after some really bad upright technique caused enough tendonitis that I had to lay the bass down for a while. I can hold my own in any bluegrass/oldtyme string band. An electric guitar was the next logical step. Wow, I sounded really bad plugged-in... amplified mistakes - what a concept! But I kept messing with those dad-blamed lek-trik guitars, and eventually, it got better. Telecasters and Les Pauls seem to be my sweet spot. Then one day recently, I had this idea of running them through my Broughton Resonant LPF pedal. Oooh. Then the SF-2. Gears stripped.



Sure, the easiest thing to do here would be just put some Alembic goodies into a guitar I already have. Do they still have that Tele set available? It's on the main page still... gotta' remember to ask Aunt Mary 'bout that. The next easiest thing to do is just wait for a nice used guitar to come along.

I'd been thinking about commissioning another Custom Alembic for when I retired from public service in the next couple years... being a bass player, I had been leaning more towards either a 4 or 5-string Brown Bass variant, but maybe this is it. We're just dreaming, right?

I really hadn't contemplated before what I would like in an Alembic guitar, had no reason to. Like I said, Telee's and Elpee's are kinda' my thing. How do we split the difference and build an Alembic to fit my hand and tickle my ears in the process?


So... what does it look like?


I really like the Skylark model's shape.

Standard Skylark is 24.75" scale, which probably has some bearing on pickup location, which becomes more important later in this thread. (where I really run it off the rails...) I wonder if adjusting the scale might help... personally, I really prefer the 24.9" scale of my small-body Martins. It isn't a deal-breaker, but when pickup location on that scale factors in and how a string oscillates on that length, I know it matters a lot... I need help with that.


The set-neck construction gets me into Les Paul land. But for voicing, do we go with mahogany or ash for the core? That's a big decision with huge ramifications. I wonder if there is something in between them? Alder? Vermilion? I don't want to give away too much twang here. I don't want mush or clang either.


Moving on...


Definitely flame/quilted maple top, with a wineburst finish. That's a done deal. And I don't want to see it until it's done. Seeing a sunburst finish for the first time is like opening a present. It should look like a California sunset into the Pacific Ocean, while the Pinot chases.


Accent pinstripe layers? Meh... maybe, maybe not. Not sure how well they'd show up.  That depends a lot on the core wood chosen, and how dark the 'burst terminates to the outside edge. Skylark has that double-thick top carve too.


Does the neck go with the standard maple w/walnut pinstripes, or mahogany w/ maple laminates? That could be a pretty big deal too, in terms of how the sustain of notes carry/decay. I'll need more expert advice here.


Headstock; standard Crown... or maybe Orion? Whichever shape, I'd like the front face of it to match the maple top. The reverse can be black, or whatever. Inlaid logo? Old-school hand-cut silver one? Or just the standard surface-mounted bronze? No wrong choice to be made.


Instead of ebony, I think I'd like a pretty piece of rosewood for the fingerboard, with abalone inlays. Since this is a Custom, there exists the possibility I may do a small personalized something, either at the 12th or 24th frets. Frets by the way... Jescar Evo Gold fretwire. I love it.


Electronics: I think Spectrum comes the closest to what I'm envisioning here... a simple Volume/Filter/Q and 3-position blade switch on a brass plate. If possible, I'd also add a bass and treble boost/flat/cut function in switches. This would be somewhat like the old Distillate (or Europa) circuit. The pickups are what I'm hedging on. I'd like to have an HG in the neck position and an STR at the bridge, angled. Position of these to be optimized, based on decided-upon scale and layout. Not leaving a lot of ambiguity about the goal here, but I agree that may sound like a weird configuration for a Skylark.


It's a custom Fender Telecaster pickup arrangement, built around a Gibson Les Paul design, on an early C.F. Martin & Co. scale... melded into a Dream Alembic.


Zzzzzzzzzzzz....

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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #1 on: September 26, 2020, 11:12:59 AM »
Good to have a dream and it seems like there is a lot of developing thought there. I think finding when to stop dreaming and comitting to a final spec is the hard bit. I do have a dream about a spectrum. I did buy some pickups from mica a few years back to get my orion modified to my ideal layout but never got round to doing it. Then lost out to an ebay auction for a lovely sunburst spectrum. In the ideal world I'd like to commission a custom 22 fret spectrum but financially it's not possible unless i sell off some of my others.
I'd like a 5 position blade switch like a strat and the Europa electronics package would be enough for me as on guitar I tend to change tone using pickups rather than a lot of tone control changes so switches work better for me.
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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2020, 11:49:19 AM »
Sounds like you have put some good thought to this already and what you described sounds very nice and unique! I just looked at the wood sample page and was completely overwhelmed with the available choices and combinations!  That is  probably the hardest part, but whatever you decide on will be nice for sure. Sounds like retirement will be fun!  :)

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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #3 on: September 26, 2020, 04:52:45 PM »
Skylark in Wineburst will look very nice!



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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #4 on: September 26, 2020, 05:13:51 PM »
Greg, have you considered a knob headstock?  Might look nice. :)

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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2020, 06:10:28 AM »
Yessir, that wineburst finish is so nice. The 'Knobby' headstock is cool too, especially on the old Series 12-string guitars. I figure, like with my Custom fretless 5-string, some of these details will come and go with time and deliberation. For some reason, today I'm leaning towards the Inline 6 design. Here's a couple from the Club here, a maple Orion and cocobolo Spectrum. Very hard to turn away from that! The shape does lend well to the Skylark pattern too.

Bro. [elwood blue] had read the thread, and pinged me yesterday afternoon with some thoughts about pickup placement, specifically, the orientation of that slanted singlecoil bridge pickup, and sustain blocks to retain that Tele voice. That made me start thinking about the tailpiece. Wonder what effect it would have to use the early-bird type, still in use on Brown Basses? Hmmm. Usually more mass equals less bass, but lots of sustain.

*come to think of it... doesn't the Tribute Model come with the ebony/brass Bird?
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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2020, 06:35:41 AM »
Temporal Experiment #1 is about to begin; a set of Alembic TC-AE-1 activators [w/3-position Q-switch added], is on the way, courtesy of Will Gunn Guitars - Hillsboro, OR.

I'm going to first try these in a Player Series Telecaster... this is a just no-frills MIM butterscotch blonde finished alder-body Telecaster, w/maple neck. Stock electronics. I put a nicer tortoise pickguard on it. It's a sweet guitar as-is. (when the experiment is over, I plan put it back to stock, maybe some hotter pickups) In case I do, or in any scenario, I'd need to order a new control plate to drill for the Q-switch. I'd like to find a brass one, if such a thing exists. I guess I could just make one. Alembic parts need brass. (can I get an Amen?) I'll look for a matching brass bridge and other hardware. 

If these activators do what I believe they will, based on conversations with Will and Bill (TGO).  then Temporal Experiment #2 is going to be to build a full-on mahogany Telecaster, body, neck and all, from parts and integrate the Alembic Activator circuitry to my own construction, and put my Mexi-Tele back like she was.

Since we were talking anyway, I told Will what I was up to here. He of course had some thoughts and ideas from various guitars his customers had built. I'm a long way yet from knowing what I want in an Alembic Guitar, but we're going to find out.
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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #7 on: October 01, 2020, 06:43:57 AM »
Greg, when you pull the Alembic guts out and start looking for the “hotter pickups”, may I suggest you check out the Fishman Fluence Greg Koch Signature Gristle-tone Tele set.  These Fishman pickups are a completely new and unique design, unlike any other pickups out there - and they sound really good.

Bill, tgo

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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #8 on: October 02, 2020, 08:14:16 AM »
Having played Bill's Alembicized Tele last night, I'm gonna go ahead and predict you will love this experiment, Greg.  I commented on it's thread back when, it is a mere rosewood 'board away from perfection.  Then I was basing it on pictures; it was nice to have my assessment confirmed in the flesh (in the ash?)
 
And here ya go: A brass Tele control plate.  Stew-Mac has one as well - about $10 cheaper (yes I used "Stew-Mac" and "cheaper" in the same sentence!), but it has an angled switch slot.

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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2020, 06:45:22 AM »
Thanks Coz! That's exactly what I want.  :)

I'm actually quite blown away by how much ready-made-to-order stuff is out there. I wasn't aware of the degree to which you can buy finished product ready for assembly. I'm probably not going to go that way. I would rather not get into routing pickup cavities or neck pockets just yet, but I want to do some of the work myself here.

Still formulating ideas.




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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #10 on: October 06, 2020, 08:29:28 AM »
Going to keep Dreamin' the Dream... but there's about to be work goin' on over here...  ;) http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=25796.msg260783#new

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Re: Ed of H. Dreamed up... a Guitar?!
« Reply #11 on: October 19, 2020, 05:47:46 PM »
I was walking off a long, exasperating day while ago, and well... going to my happy place.  :)

So I was thinking; what if some 'Peanut' DNA made it into my Dream Skylark here? Is that just crazy talk? The Peanut, revisited, 50 years later.  ::)

If you squint and look at a Skylark, you can see it.

Yeah. I had a really hard day. Used a couple dirty words.  :-X