I had a short scale Hamer B12S for a while. Really cool beast and a little different than an 8 string. They definitely have a "thing" about them. Unfortunately, while I'm usually fine with short scales, the way they set the neck way into the body gave it too much of a cramped feeling. I get it with regard to balance (there's a whole lot of headstock and tuners!), but it felt too much like a guitar, so I sold it.