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StefanieJones

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Motivation?
« on: May 05, 2019, 10:09:08 AM »
How do you all stay motivated? I'm going through a "I feel like a robot" stage. I know I should be experimenting and playing around with new sounds and stuff. But, I'm seriously not motivated.

The band is playing 3 times a month, it's all the same stuff. Oldies, country, rock and a few contemporary songs.  It's just robotic playing. Don't get me wrong, I love most of the songs. The options are limited here at the shore.

It's just I need more? or something else to be creative with? I don't know.. there's more questions than answers.

Edit: I should add, I still play every day but that's just practice.
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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2019, 12:08:02 PM »
There's nothing wrong with not feeling "motivated".  Rather, let go of the word "motivation" and the pressure to force something to happen that it entails, and instead allow space for the mystery of musical expression to show up naturally in whatever form it unfolds into next.

... as cryptic as that may sound.  :)

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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2019, 12:45:44 PM »
I wish I could be more help, Stefanie. All I can do is tell you what my experience was...

Last Fall, after I woke up from a cervical fusion surgery and felt my hands for the first time in 6 months, and felt the relief of knowing I could play bass again, for some strange reason... I lost every bit of appetite to play. Didn't even want to try. It was the first, and only time that's ever happened. Even when I was on the road back when, I never felt that burnout people said I would. But for about 10 terrible weeks, I had no motivation to even pick an instrument up. I couldn't tell you why, or how it finally went away, but it did.

I think in my case, I was just too distracted by other more pressing things to hear that 'music in my head', that constant soundtrack of life that keeps me wanting to play along. It took time for all that interference to subside, and when it did, the music came roaring back. I think the hiatus may even have forced me into stretching out. I can play things today that I wouldn't have even thought of last year.

You're probably just at a learning plateau... don't sweat it too much. Focus on being the best you can at your gigs, but remember to have some fun! :)




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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2019, 01:34:13 PM »
Thanks David and Gregory.

Maybe it is a learning plateau, and a bit of frustration.   Life, work, band...

I do like the idea of letting go and think I'm just going to try that.  And be the best me that I can be!
(and try to have some fun along the way.)

Gregory, I can't imagine what that experience was like but I'm glad you made it through. That's great and quite an accomplishment.

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« Reply #4 on: May 05, 2019, 01:54:29 PM »
How about adding some new material?  Maybe something quite difficult and challenging.  Or try something from a completely different genre and give it your own spin - an unexpected surprise to throw at the audience.  Like The Toyes doing a reggae version of Freebird.

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« Reply #5 on: May 05, 2019, 03:26:52 PM »
I play in a reggae band and since ive been playing bass for them the set is pretty much the same as when i joined in 2012. Because its a named band with a list of hit records they want them played as close to the originals as possible because thats what their fans want. Many reggae records the bassline effectively is the song and if you move too far from it you lose the song. But over the years i have managed to make subtle changes along the way that allow me to spread my wings a bit without losing the vibe of the original also if i want to change something more dramatic i drop it in at rehearsal and if no one mentions it i put it in on the gig. If they do notice i discuss it with them and usually its ok. Now that ive been with the band for a while they are used to me making subtle changes and generally trust my ideas.
If i were just playing any one genre id be less motivated so i learn other things that i may never get to play live but pushes my learning and technique. At the moment im learning some steely dan bass lines as they have a nice habit of going places my ears wouldnt expect. Id suggest just learn new stuff and you may find some of those ideas will flow when the right vibe happens on stage.
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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #6 on: May 05, 2019, 07:36:22 PM »
I bought an electric upright a few months ago so I can keep learning new things. That helps motivate me. It also makes me a much better electric bass played too!

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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #7 on: May 05, 2019, 07:42:47 PM »
Just keep practicing, whether you are motivated or not. It's just what we do and even when not motivated, inspiration can strike when you least expect it. And at least your chops stay fresh.

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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #8 on: May 05, 2019, 08:00:04 PM »
I have a cheap Soundcraft mixer that I can plug an instrument into and also CD player/computer/etc. and I play along with different music. Playing off my computer is good because I can make "playalong" playlists, I upload stuff from CDs mostly, I still have a huge CD collection.

I've been in a slump too - people I've been playing with haven't been available for a couple of months or more, so haven't been playing much at all - busy with work too. Sometimes picking up a different bass can be fun and even motivating - I've just started playing my Alembicized Guild again after a 8-10 month break - fun!

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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #9 on: May 06, 2019, 05:54:36 AM »
Stefanie,
I am perhaps the last person to give advice on this topic.
Disclosure; in the last 4 years I have picked up my Distillate maybe a half dozen times... life has gotten in the way.  There are many reasons, some good, some just excuses...  I digress.

Maybe try (as others have inferred) tweaking your tone a bit, add treble when you normally are keeping it smooth or throw a different style of strings on.  If you normally play round wounds switch to flats or visa versa.  Try playing the songs a little bit different without going off the rails... add a note here or there, or REALLY mix it up by adding space.  Maybe start working with your drummer and find places in songs where you can do some fun little synchronized, ba, bah, babaaas that don’t disrupt the song(s) but adds some excitement to them.



With all due respect I contradict Edwin’s comment.  If you don’t feel like practicing but force yourself to practice, you could be inviting more frustration into your craft.  (Ask me how I know  :o )


Go see some other live performances and watch them with the knowledge that many of them are faced with a similar “stuck playing the same list time after time” and see if you can tell what they do to not feel as if they are in a rut.


Keep us updated on how things go.




Paul (who should probably unplug his Distillate’s battery before it oozes goo in the control cavity)




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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #10 on: May 06, 2019, 09:57:53 AM »
Thanks everyone! I really appreciate the replies.  I keep practicing for sure. I dont want to go backwards, lol. Last weekend I only played what I felt like playing and a little at a time. No marathons.  We'll see when lightning strikes. I"ll post about it, haha! ;)  thank you all again!  You're all awesome and so helpful. There isn't a better corner to stop by that I know of.

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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #11 on: May 06, 2019, 03:29:35 PM »
How do you all stay motivated? I'm going through a "I feel like a robot" stage. I know I should be experimenting and playing around with new sounds and stuff. But, I'm seriously not motivated.

The band is playing 3 times a month, it's all the same stuff. Oldies, country, rock and a few contemporary songs.  It's just robotic playing. Don't get me wrong, I love most of the songs. The options are limited here at the shore.

It's just I need more? or something else to be creative with? I don't know.. there's more questions than answers.

Edit: I should add, I still play every day but that's just practice.

Work on another genre ?

I've been studying jazz the past 6-8 months, and started taking lessons again as well. 

It's caused me to take a new approach to the G. Dead songs I've been playing these past 2-3 decades, and has also caused me to go back and listen to them again.  Im finding things in the music I never heard before and am incorporating everything I've been learning into my playing.  Its refreshing.

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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #12 on: May 06, 2019, 04:37:52 PM »
Do you play another instrument? Maybe set the bass aside for a week or more, play something else and see if it brings fresh ideas.

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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #13 on: May 07, 2019, 10:44:52 AM »
That's a good idea Mark. I'll pick up the guitar for a bit and see how that does. Thanks and thank you to everyone, as well :)

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Re: Motivation?
« Reply #14 on: May 07, 2019, 03:22:02 PM »
Lessons are always a good option. You never get to a point where they aren't helpful because getting an outside perspective is the best way to honestly assess where you are and what needs work. I took guitar lessons from Dale Bruning (Bill Frisell's old teacher who played in Dizzy's band for quite some time. Colorado's answer to Jim Hall) for about 5 months and that really opened up a lot of stuff.