Author Topic: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)  (Read 19328 times)

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #585 on: April 20, 2024, 05:42:01 AM »
Anymore, I keep a mindset of "treat the patient in front of you", and a lot of times I'm fixing things where the cost of repair borders on, or sometimes exceeds the value of the subject... and you still have to do a good job, because it means something to somebody. So it's a pleasure when I get to work on a nice one like that Tu-Ba-Phone. I got a call from the customer last night (I'd already wiped-out... zzzz 💤) but they were thrilled with it. Plus I got paid to do it. Double-win.

This Neapolitan mandolin was 'part two' of the last banjo I worked on, the pony-scale tenor that had been converted to a five-string, and had a birdseye maple rim. The mandolin was badly dried out, the brass frets had sprouted, the fingerboard had a few little splits forming, the rosewood staves that form the bowlback were separated in a few places, the inlaid pickguard had popped loose, and the top was split open. All of that was within the scope of what I quoted to fix, the goal here was to make this instrument capable of being restrung, and 'look presentable'. What I did not commit to was making it playable. This mandolin had been strung to modern pitch with modern strings, which it was never designed for, and it simply folded in the middle. The string action is ridiculously high. But it sounds really pretty strung to a low, open chord.

One repair done here; the split in the top. It would not close any more with humidity and clamping, so it had to be filled with a spruce spline. I haven't done one of these in a while, but it was fun! Nothing too complicated about it, just a thin wedge of quartersawn spruce, cut and trimmed to fit exactly into that crack, glued in, then carved down using a very sharp chisel, followed by a razor blade scraping to flush with the top. After the finish is touched up, you can see the repair, but this is a solid fix. It's mostly hidden behind the tailpiece cover anyway, but the structural integrity is what's key here... that pull-and-pressure is trying to gap the top open, it needed something to bind it back together. Check the pic, see if you can see it.

All the obtuse angles and rounded elliptical surfaces of these things make you come up with some inventive clamping solutions. I like projects that make me think. This one sure did that. And I think it turned out nice. Check out this original leather case! I'll watch it for a day or two, and run it back to the store Monday.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #586 on: April 20, 2024, 06:54:58 AM »
Nicely done!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #587 on: April 20, 2024, 07:49:31 AM »
Incredible, too!
I used to think I was indecisive, but now I'm not so sure.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #588 on: April 20, 2024, 09:07:50 AM »
Looking great!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #589 on: April 21, 2024, 05:41:58 AM »
Took in this sweet little 1/2-size German upright bass for new strings, bridge, soundpost and setup yesterday. It had a seam separation at the waist, an easy fix after all the crazy things I've been gluing and clamping up lately.

LaBella makes a buncha' different bass string sets. These SuperNils are popular with the bluegrass/oldtyme scene. They are a nylon core, so I often singe the clipped ends in a candle flame, then dip in the melted paraffin. I'm a little bit OCD about winding them too. This set was made specifically for a 1/2-size bass, so they were just right for this length. (I really hate to see a bass pegbox with a bird's nest of strings...😖)

New bridge, Teller... also 1/2-size. (note that I saved the feet and crown cutoff pieces, and put them in the string pack... they are for a future shim or graft) Soundpost... I just shaved it down proportionally. Main thing here is fit... I got it on the first try.

While on my bench, I made a new tailgut for it from some 1/8" brass rod stock, threading the ends for acorn nuts. The improvised wire hanger was too short, which made the string afterlength too long. This fractional-sized bass had a scale length of about 38-1/4", so the afterlength, (the portion of string between the bridge and tailpiece) should be about 1/6 of that, in this case, around 6-3/8". My brass hanger has a little more refined look. They aren't terribly expensive and they take minutes to make.

My customer is on his way... just enough time to tune it up and shine it up. Nice to work on a bass again!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #590 on: April 21, 2024, 07:33:24 AM »
Nice work on this bass, Greg. About those strings, I'm doing some string testing for LaBella right now. They're developing some new nylon string sets for double bass that are flatwound nylon instead of the roundwound they've been using, and they're matching them with new light gauge metal E and A strings. They'll probably be on the market maybe later this year. Supernil will still be offered.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #591 on: April 21, 2024, 07:43:17 AM »
Good to hear, Keith. I wonder if this is to compete more directly with Innovation (belongs to GHS now) Silver and Gold sets, and the Polish Eurosonics? Those are what I have been recommending to my customers who like a softer feel, thicker sound than a chromesteel flat, but don't necessarily want the roundwound nylon strings. I know a few though who will never, ever give up the SuperNil set.


I look forward to trying them out. Hopefully they are similar in feel to their "Low Tension Flats" for bass guitar.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #592 on: May 02, 2024, 04:21:02 PM »
Haven't had much time for my shop lately. The last days of my day-gig in public service are getting very long, but the good news is that they are drawing to a close rapidly. My pre-retirement meeting with HR is next week.

I will miss some of the guys and girls, fellow Operators, and crazy as it sounds, I will even miss the danger. I won't miss "The Job". These days, I much prefer the slower pace and peaceful workspace of my dusty workshop.

Oh yeah, almost forgot... I took in a Martin "Backpacker" guitar, and an Ibanez acoustic for repair this week, both for Fret Mill Music.   

(the Tyvek suit and shield, for anyone who's curious, is to protect me from the Hydrochloric Acid I'm transferring from one barrel to another here. Yes, it's extremely dangerous. And it isn't even the most hazardous thing I did today.)
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #593 on: May 03, 2024, 05:02:34 PM »
I wasn't totally burned out this evening, so thought I'd slip up here to my shop and maybe get a headstart on the Martin Backpacker guitar...

For those who aren't familiar with them, these are a simple little 6-string strummer instrument C.F Martin & Co. makes in their Navajoa, Mexico factory. They're actually kinda' fun, and sound pretty good for what they are. You can easily keep one in your office, or take on a hike, or anywhere you wouldn't necessarily want to take a larger, or more valuable axe. It's a 'casual' guitar, and not particularly expensive. (I think Ken sells 'em new for around $300)

Anyway, this one came in the other day as a "can you fix this?" case. It had been strung up with medium-gauge strings, and it collapsed. As the label says- "use extra-light strings only". Looking inside at what little bracing there is, I don't see any loose... I believe it's simply sunken-in, right in front of the bridge... really sunken. And I'm not quite certain what will be a permanent repair, but for now, I am attempting to swell it back to a flat, or ideally, a bit of an arched profile with moisture and clamp pressure between cauls. Once that's accomplished, I'll see if there's a way to brace it laterally. This will probably be a long-term process. I don't know how long it'll take to get that spruce top to remember what it used to be like.


More on this one later. May have to get creative.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #594 on: May 03, 2024, 06:27:22 PM »
That's an interesting looking fingerboard.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #595 on: May 04, 2024, 07:29:31 AM »
That's an interesting looking fingerboard.


It is. I was thinking the same thing Dave, wondering what it might be. My initial thought was it might be Indian Laurel. I have a Fender Telecaster with that for a fingerboard wood... it's similar to this stuff, but not quite a match. According to Martin, the Backpacker guitar comes with either a Padauk or Morado fingerboard, depending on the production line. I remember back in the early 90's they made a line of special D-28's with back and sides of Morado, a Bolivian rosewood. Haven't seen one of them in years, but I remember it being more of a striped walnut-ty brown.

So I can't say what ithis board is but I like it... especially how it shows where it's been played on.

*My improvised press is working... the top is already flattening out some. I slipped a couple shims under each end of the caul, and tightened the clamp, inducing some camber (arch) now. I'll let it sit for another day or two, in a warm/moist bag to marinate. I'm on to other projects today... nuthin' interestin'... just payin' the light bill. It beats the daylights outta' transferring Hydrochloric Acid from drum-to-drum though, wearin' a plastic jumpsuit...
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #596 on: May 04, 2024, 08:16:14 AM »
Older ones are paduak, newer ones are morado (AKA Bolivian rosewood).  I have heard whispers that they've since changed to Richlite, but I can confirm nor deny that - except to say this one ain't that.
This one looks like morado to me. 

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #597 on: May 05, 2024, 05:02:35 AM »
Does the top have the same integrity after being bent back into position?

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #598 on: May 05, 2024, 06:33:27 AM »
Does the top have the same integrity after being bent back into position?

Good question. I think so, yes. But clearly it wasn't strong enough to start with. At least not for anything beyond the prescribed extra-light strings. That seems to be what does these little guys in... oddly though, they don't fold or buckle behind the bridge. Or at least this one didn't.

The real question is, will my fix hold up even with lighter tension? I'm trying to figure out how to get a transverse brace (or two) glued-in to brace that top in front of the bridge. Like building a ship in a bottle - there just isn't much room to work.

I got a call yesterday evening from a guy with an D-28 needing a bridge reglue and setup. He's supposed to be coming by later today for me to have a look-see. I think might know this guitar... if it's the one, it was in the local Craigslist for two months, for pretty cheap. This might be why. (I was going to give it another week and go check it out myself...)

Back to work on the Backpacker. And I've got a 90's Yamaha acoustic-electric on the bench today, couple loose braces and the bridge is easing up... a 6 year-old kid is going to be taking lessons on this one, so I gotta' nail the setup. And it needs to look presentable so they won't... you know, be careless about an already beat-up guitar.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #599 on: May 05, 2024, 04:46:32 PM »

…  I'm trying to figure out how to get a transverse brace (or two) glued-in to brace that top in front of the bridge. Like building a ship in a bottle - there just isn't much room to work.


Was hoping you would say that!   Looking forward to your creative solution.