Author Topic: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)  (Read 19357 times)

pauldo

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #570 on: March 31, 2024, 05:45:05 PM »
What material is that 5th tuner made of?   The pattern on it is beautiful.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #571 on: April 01, 2024, 02:48:17 PM »
What material is that 5th tuner made of?   The pattern on it is beautiful.


Those buttons are grained ivoroid, Paul. I think the tuning machines may be pre-Stewart MacDonald Waverly. And they may just be unbranded Five-Star pegs with Waverly buttons. But yeah... they look nice.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #572 on: April 07, 2024, 10:30:17 AM »
I've been working on banjos for a long time... I reckon it was the mid-1980's when I started helping my Ol' Man put the finishing touches on his banjos.

It isn't common to see banjos with figured wood shells. It's more common on the older open-back ones than on resonator banjos, where the rim doesn't show much anyway. Still, after all this time, I can only recall a very small handful of them with a birdseye maple rim. Only one of ours (so far) has that feature [#94-18], and has a five-piece neck of flamed maple with walnut pinstripe laminates.

This is the second one to show up in my shop in as many weeks. Strange coincidences. What are the odds two very similar banjos turn up in the same shop that close together, yet unrelated? My instructions are pretty simple; just clean it up and restring. It won't be played, but the family wants to keep it presentable. Someone drilled it at the fourth fret and installed a fifth-string peg. The hide head had a couple holes rubbed in it where the tailpiece was digging in, and another one around the edge. I would replace this head if it were going to be played, but in this case I have cut a couple patches of calfskin hide and glued them in place. Other than that, all the hardware has been cleaned up as much as possible and the pot reassembled. I'll let it sit for a little while and restring one night this week.

Good way to spend an afternoon.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #573 on: April 07, 2024, 11:40:08 AM »
Beautiful instrument.   

When the family gets it back you should play a little ditty on it.   Present to them a reason to play that beautiful heirloom instead of having it hang on a wall…

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #574 on: April 07, 2024, 12:06:19 PM »
If Ken happens to be behind his store counter when they come pick it up, I'm sure he will play a little tune on it, just to amuse if nothing else. I also have a Neapolitan mandolin to fix up along with this banjo... it's badly 'folded' from years of unattended string tension, and completely dried out so that all the staves of the bowl construction are coming loose. The top center seam is open too. I'm humidifying it for a few weeks before even attempting any work. The customers I'm repairing these for are an an older retired couple who live a couple hours northwest of town. I'm told the instruments were a grandmother's. In conversation, I advised them let's just preserve them for another generation, and do no harm. (I'd have to do some fairly radical work to make the mandolin playable again...)

Here's a (lousy) picture of the only Honeytone banjo to ever have a birdseye maple rim. You really have to look in this picture. I really wish I'd capped this rim instead of painting it black now, but my goodness the Ol' Man did a nice job on that neck. The sunburst is one of my earlier versions using a base color called "buckskin". I need to reconnect with the owner of #18 and get some better pictures of it.


*The freaky coincidences continue... totally unprompted, the guy who has #18 texted me last night after I'd gone to bed about something else. (a stash of wood for my shop he heard about) I returned the text this morning and asked for a couple pics of the birdseye maple shell. He sent me these right away.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #575 on: April 08, 2024, 01:22:08 PM »
Yes that neck does look nice.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #576 on: April 08, 2024, 05:23:38 PM »
That is one of the prettiest neck i have ever seen!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #577 on: April 10, 2024, 08:53:00 AM »
That is one of the prettiest neck i have ever seen!

Peter
Yes that neck does look nice.


The maple necks in #93-16 and #93-17 were pretty special too... they were both one-piece rather than the bookmatch with pinstripes. I finished them both with the same colors. #94-18 was a little more subdued, more reddish-brown, less crimson red. Then on #95-19, I went for a solid burgundy red. Went back to sunburst for #95-20 and 21.

Here's 16 & 17. I don't have a picture of 19. 20 was destroyed in a fire, the scorched remains hang in my shop to this day.


*fixt errors in spelling and grammar.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #578 on: April 10, 2024, 11:39:42 AM »
Those are nice as well, and love the back of 19-17.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #579 on: April 10, 2024, 04:09:48 PM »
Finished up the banjo project and restrung it. It's now a playable keepsake. My glued-in hide patches to the hide head held fine as I tightened it up juuuusssst enuff. One more look at that nice wood shell from the side. Not a clue as to the maker or brand. It's an odd size and scale. Very Vega-Fairbanks like, but not. For sure, early 20th Century northeastern United States. Maybe into the 1920's. I enjoyed working on it.

The Neapolitan mandolin will be a bit more work. Before I even start, I'm trying to swell it with humidity. I've placed a damp spongebox inside, and sealed up the soundhole. Then wrapped the body in a plastic bag to hold the moisture in. I'm hoping the center seam will close up some, and several of the rosewood staves that form the bowlback will be much easier to glue up if they actually meet. I'll check it again in a week.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #580 on: April 19, 2024, 08:53:06 AM »
Here's another one I just finished up and took back to the store... not too many of these around anymore. This is an early 1920's Vega Tu-Ba-Phone Style M tenor banjo. I documented the job for the customer, who inherited it from a family member who likely got it new. It was still in its original hardshell case. All the hooks-n-nuts actually matched, and even the original engraved Presto tailpiece was with it. It's rare to find one like this.

The scope of work wasn't too much... replace the old hide-head with a modern mylar "Renaissance" one, correctly sized, clean up the metal parts and hardware. The most tedious repair was involving the neck; the binding was missing. Not just a piece or two... all trace of it gone, leaving just a shelf routed into the ebony fingerboard. This would be very tricky to glue in a new strip of binding, then scrape down. I feel scrappy though... let's see how it goes.

First, pics of the disassembled pot, and a few other notable details.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #581 on: April 19, 2024, 09:01:07 AM »
Now that the pot assembly was done, I spent the better part of Sunday afternoon on the binding. I opted for grained ivoroid, and figured I'd yellow it for the relic'd look.

(don't y'all judge me... it's legit, 100 years old...)

Then it was time to fit it up to the shell and restring...

Annnnd...
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #582 on: April 19, 2024, 09:03:19 AM »
All done. The pink towel pics.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #583 on: April 19, 2024, 09:54:35 AM »

First, pics of the disassembled pot, and a few other notable details.
 
Disassembled pot? Am I the only one who expected to see the Live/Dead cover open, with flower on one side and seeds & stems on the other?  8)

Lovely work, as always, Greg.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #584 on: April 19, 2024, 03:25:39 PM »
That Vega truly is beautiful.

I Wanna Play For You was my “tray”.   ;)