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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #435 on: June 22, 2023, 11:30:09 AM »
Gregory, best wishes with your upcoming adventure.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #436 on: June 22, 2023, 12:29:33 PM »
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #437 on: July 27, 2023, 06:25:53 AM »
Fret Mill Music sent me a couple little projects to work on 'when I feel like it / or feel up to it'... I'm about a month into this thing now, and since they looked fairly low-impact jobs, I thought I'd give myself a chance at the shop for a couple hours a day. When my head starts to get heavy, or something hurts, I quit - simple.

For starters, they gave me two banjo-family instruments, a banjo-uke, and a mandolin-banjo, both from the early 1920's. The latter, being the more interesting one, a Vega "Little Wonder". I've got it completely disassembled for cleaning now, and ordered a new head for it. Vega had some unusual diameter size pot assemblies, but I was able to source a 10-1/8" Remo 'Renaissance' head for it... wasn't even an outrageous price. Should be here by next week.

The unlabeled banjo uke only needed cleaning, a new nut, and restringing. Also a tailpiece and bridge, but I have a drawer full of old junk/salvaged parts like that, just especially for times like this. I'm only waiting for a set of strings, and it'll be done. It's a very nice item. I imagine it was a catalog order, but most I've seen weren't nearly this fancy. This one even has an inlaid resonator.

*The star of the show is next... I'm finishing it up today. And fair warning, this one has stolen my heart and affections. 😍
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #438 on: July 27, 2023, 07:17:11 AM »
Wow - that is a spectacular resonator!!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #439 on: July 27, 2023, 01:27:33 PM »
Y’all know how much I appreciate the backsides of instruments… this one is exceptional!

Thanks Gregory!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #440 on: July 27, 2023, 07:20:34 PM »
Yes, the backside of that uke looks nice!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #441 on: July 28, 2023, 07:14:28 AM »
Every now and then, one comes along that I just don't want to send back when the work is done. It's been a while since I fell for one this hard too... and this is admittedly an odd one. So what is it? Well, a tenor guitar. To pinpoint; 1928 Martin, Style 2-18 T.

C.F. Martin & Co. got into the tenor guitar market along with the other makers of the day, to offer banjo players an alternative sound without having to learn another instrument. They offered tenor guitars in several styles and sizes. I happen to own a Style 5-17 T from 1927, one year older, and quite a bit smaller. A size 5 body is a tiny little box, not much bigger than a baritone ukulele, size 2 is considerably bigger, longer scale, but still nowhere near the size of say, an 0, or 00- size. Just for perspective.

So I got this tenor guitar in... the bridge is crudely screwed to the top with two mismatched machine screws, and it's unbelievably dirty. There's also what I think is white wall paint spatters on it. The original Grover 'pancake' planetary tuners are tarnished up bad, but still there. It's got honest playing wear, but no real abuse. Not a single crack anywhere, not a loose brace to reglue, nothing. My instructions were simply to clean it up, and get it playable. Evaluating a guitar like this, you just never know sometimes what you might be getting into. That bridge had been screwed to the top and under tension for so long, that it was too warped to go back on without flattening. That old ebony was so brittle and crumbly, there was no way I was going to try heat-pressing it. I ended up building up the bottom with ebony veneer and then sanding it flat. (had I not built it up, the 'ears' would have been paper-thin...) I filled in the missing chunks and plugged the screw holes with epoxy and black dust. The saddle slot was a mess too, same treatment there, but I had to make a form of brass to 'pour' the epoxy against. That was a lot of trouble to save an original bridge. For what it's worth, Martin will sell you a new one, if you can provide exact measurements. I have on occasion called and waited on hold, and when the lady came back, she had a replacement bridge for another odd-sized old Martin guitar I was working on.

Plugging the holes in the top was an easier fix... I mixed some spruce fibers with epoxy and packed it tightly into the screw holes, backed-up from the inside with masking tape. I doubt they ever knew how close they came to destroying the top of this guitar - those two screws missed the X- braces by millimeters. The sight gave me a shudder. A screw through one of them at that point would have compromised the structural integrity of the top. But the repair was easy, and solid, and wouldn't even be visible without an inspection mirror and light. Now that there was a flat place to glue the bridge back, and a repaired bridge to put back, it was time for glue and clamps.

Martin didn't start using plastic bindings or purfling inlays until midway through 1932. Note how all the trim here is wood, even the soundhole rosette. Looking around inside these old Martin guitars is just fascinating to me. Those sculpted braces, the kerfed linings, everything inside here is basically untouched for 95 years. There is as much detail inside as outside, really.

Back with finishing touches in a while...
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #442 on: July 28, 2023, 07:26:40 AM »
More detail pictures and a couple with an older sibling, 5-17 T.

*I have no idea what the inscription on the upper bout might mean... it makes no sense as a tuning option. None I can think of. Usually tenor guitars are tuned in fifths. ADGC, with C being the bass, some people tune an octave below mandolin, EADG, with G being bass. I know one guy who tunes like the bottom four strings of a guitar in standard pitch; EBGD.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #443 on: July 28, 2023, 01:46:10 PM »
Nice!

CFAE - could be the chords to a song, though don't know why you would carve them into your instrument.  Could also be the initials of a former owner of the instrument, for instance the Center for Fine Arts Education.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #444 on: July 28, 2023, 03:52:07 PM »
Very nice.  Would love to hear it.  It looks warm.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #445 on: July 28, 2023, 04:16:48 PM »
This sort of work should get you the Presidential Medal Of Freedom, Greg!  You are saving our heritage.

Never tried tenor, but have heard of people playing them in tenor banjo tuning, tuned like the high 4 of a guitar, and like the bottom 4.

An owner's initials was my thought, as well, but I was thinking something like Charles Fredrick Alan Erickson.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #446 on: July 30, 2023, 07:31:05 PM »
Brother Gregory, you've just got a gift for fixing up these instruments, and it's fascinating to watch the transition back to cool, playable instruments.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #447 on: August 03, 2023, 03:53:39 AM »
It's really been nice... not working on deadlines, just going at whatever pace I feel like. My shop is not air-conditioned, but it is insulated to the nth degree, and situated in a well-shaded area. At night I run a ventilation system that pulls a draft through, and it stays comfortably cool in there all day. I ran a 50 amp circuit out there when we built the shop, in case I ever wanted or needed to put in a bigger fan, or HVAC, but it's fine as-is.

The Martin tenor guitar and banjo-uke went back to Fret Mill Music yesterday, and they sent me a Taylor 314e with a split in the mahogany back. It's a warranty job, as Fret Mill is a dealer for them. Looks like an easy fix... glue, draw-clamp, and probably a cleat or two, depending upon how close the back braces are. I really don't understand why this one cracked unless it dried out.

I took in an upright bass job that I'd postponed since the surgery. This bass got knocked over by a drunk. (allegedly) And it suffered a missing chunk from the upper bout edge. The bridge fell over, the strings released, and somehow... the nut just vanished. Sometimes it's best we don't ask too many questions when these things come in. Fortunately, and almost unbelievably, this wasn't going to be a hard job; fix the drunk-chunk, carve a new nut, touch it up and string it back up. Bill the nice lady conservatively, and judge not. (especially since you already made her wait three weeks)

My friend and mentor Ward Elliott brought me a great little paperback to read while taking breaks. There are some great stories in here... some of the best woodsmiths in the world share their horror stories.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #448 on: August 04, 2023, 03:45:49 AM »
Finished fixing the missing chunk, and started trying to color-match the patch so it would look better. I refitted the bridge feet to the top, set the soundpost, and restrung the bass. The touch-up continues... it'll never disappear, but it won't be very noticeable either.




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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #449 on: August 04, 2023, 08:42:17 AM »
Nicely done!