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David Houck

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #390 on: March 19, 2023, 04:27:43 PM »
The fingerboard looks nice.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #391 on: March 19, 2023, 05:31:29 PM »
Interesting that the knots are in there, adds character.   

My wrists hurt just looking (and reading) about the neck rework.  Do you have any secrets/ tips about doing that much hand work?

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #392 on: March 21, 2023, 05:05:22 PM »
Nah, no real secrets... just go slow, steady, deliberate, take a lot of breaks. Keep checking with a straight edge. I kinda' have to be in the right place in my head for this stuff anyway.

I called in an order to International Violin Co. yesterday morning, for all the parts to finish up the cello project, plus I needed a couple bass bridges and some strings, some lengths of soundpost stock. It's good to be a little bit busy up here again.

In the meantime, this old Kay is beginning to take shape. I've started reglueing loose and missed kerfing, fixed some more de-laminations. Just glue, and creative clampling. Rinse, and repeat. Not sure yet how to address this big ugly hole in the lower bout. Gotta' think about that one a while. It's missing one of its scroll-ears too. Not a big deal... I have a good stash of these. I'll either replace both and save the odd one, or if I have a good match, just replace the missing one. That'll be almost the last thing to fix.

I'm tired... going to quit for the night.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #393 on: March 21, 2023, 07:32:14 PM »
Is that Bondo­® peeling off that hole??

I can't wait to see the answer - which I'm guessing will both be ingenious and look right spiffy.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #394 on: March 22, 2023, 10:15:18 AM »
I can't wait to see the answer - which I'm guessing will both be ingenious and look right spiffy.

Peter

Same.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #395 on: March 26, 2023, 10:18:23 AM »
Confirmed Coz; Bondo... and some fiberglass backing.  ::)

I decided to make a wood patch inside first, and work back to that point, so using some fairly thick maple veneer, I have fashioned a big rectangular bandage just enough to cover and shore up the splintered out plywood. Just regular old Titebond wood glue for this, saturated both surfaces in hopes it would creep in. Since the surface it's being clamped to is curved, but not really true, I had to make a kind of compression caul to spread the clamping pressure out. This looks so goofy even I can't believe it worked, but I got plenty of glue squeeze-out all around.

I set it aside, and put the cello-to-bass project on the bench again. The parts for it came in yesterday's mail. There's a new rosewood tailpiece and gut, a rosewood endpin, (I like stuff to match) a bridge blank and a length of soundpost stock, but I'm most excited about this set of German-made Rubner machines. These things are very nice! And they solve the problem of winding heavy bass guitar strings onto cello friction pegs, and dealing with trying to tune to pitch. I may have to dowel and relocate/redrill the holes about 1/8" for the 3rd and 4th strings, but the 1st and 2nd line up perfectly. Did I say how nice these Rubners were? $70. You can't get anything decent for that. My buds at International Violin Co. fixed me up.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #396 on: March 26, 2023, 10:26:59 AM »
And in the "just-payin'-the-bills" department...

I cut and fit a new adjustable bridge for this well-loved old Carl Meisel bass yesterday morning, just after daylight. That was a really nice old bass. The guy had gotten it new, in 1962. I've only seen a couple of them.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #397 on: March 26, 2023, 02:48:38 PM »
Keep it coming. Everything related to making and repairing is so interesting.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #398 on: March 27, 2023, 08:54:53 PM »
Hey Greg


Looking for some advice here. Someone Locally is selling  3/4 double bass and I might have an interest thought it’s been years since I played an upright.  Its a Lazzaro Zucchi in good condition and the owner states it has never has any neck repairs. Do you know anything about these instruments and their value. No idea as to age or how it plays but wondering if it’s worth a look see.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #399 on: March 28, 2023, 05:39:16 AM »
Can't say I've ever worked on one, Brian, but looking online Lazzaro Zucchi instruments are well-regarded. Looks like a new 3/4-size upright is about $6k, not bad for a well-made solid wood instrument.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #400 on: April 02, 2023, 04:35:50 PM »
Still got some clean up, dress up, and touch up to do, but structurally speaking... the hole has been patched. With real wood!

I'll be ready to reassemble this old bass in a couple more nights. Next up, the top goes back on. (barring anything unfortunate)

I'm also doing a fretless conversion on a Washburn 5-string on the side for another customer. And the cello-to-bass conversion project is still moving along. I fitted a new endpin/footrest to it. I am contemplating what electronics it might receive.


Last week was a bear in WaterWorld, plus I was off for medical stuff Friday, so didn't have a lot of shop time until this weekend. We'll get back to it this week.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #401 on: April 03, 2023, 06:52:14 PM »
Patch looks good!  And the fretless conversion is interesting to see.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #402 on: April 08, 2023, 11:43:15 AM »
After another brain-numbing week in WaterWorld, I didn't get much done up here in my shop. I do come up here in the evening sometimes, just to chill out and ruminate, but unless I feel very focused I don't pick up tools.

Today's projects picked up where last week left off; the Washburn 5-string lined fretless conversion in progress, and the 1940 Kay O-100 bass restoration.

The defretted Washburn neck has been inlaid with maple fretlines, and flushed up, finished sanded back to a smooth radius. I was able to mask off the neck below the fingerboard and file/sand the fretlines off flush to the edge. Didn't know how that would go, but I figured worst-case I'd have to either brush some finish on, or take it all off evenly. It's turned out nice. My customer isn't sure about the original side dots, whether we need to move them. They wouldn't bother me, having the visual cues from the sidelines anyway, but I'm prepared to do it if they make him dizzy. I think we're all different in this... some people's eyes are drawn to different things. I remember Mica was really worried they had put my bronze side markers in the wrong place by locating them in the center of each 'fret', but that's actually what I prefer. It wasn't however, a problem for me to adjust to the fretless Distillate that had only bronze side markers at the intervals, and of course, on the exact spot where a fret would be. Anyway, we'll just have to wait and see. For now, I'm happy with the contrast between the maple and walnut fingerboard here.

I'm about ready to reassemble the old Kay, with all the internal work done. There's still a bunch to do, but the next thing is to put the top back on. Trick is, this old bass has been apart for so long, that it's literally lost its shape some... meaning the ribs (sides) have relaxed, so that they dont match the shape of the top anymore. It happens... and it's partly my fault. So I have tapped it into place under the neck joint, and dry-clamped all five of the solid pressure points firmly, and by loosening one point at a time, massaged the ribs back where they go. I'll leave it like this until I'm ready for glue. When we glue it up, there'll be these specialized clamps I have made that go all the way around the entire body. It's a two-person job, when one of them is this warped. I'll probably get Ward to help. I'd get the Ol' Man to help, but... uhhh... well, him and his little doggie got better things to do than play in sawdust.

I'm going to quit for the day and go play some guitar. Because I can, for a few weeks maybe.  :)

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #403 on: April 08, 2023, 02:13:57 PM »
That lined fingerboard looks nice!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #404 on: April 17, 2023, 05:44:46 PM »
An older lady (older than me) brought this cool old banjo that belonged to her Father, into the Fret Mill last week to see if they could get it playable again. Ken summoned me for an assessment.

I'm just about done with it. Already installed a new head, and reassembled the pot. Working on a couple little details with the neck now. I'll probably be done Wednesday.

Easy job, cool old banjo. No idea who made it, but I'll guess probably Northeastern U.S. about 1920 judging by the construction and hardware. It was sold however, through the Montgomery-Ward catalog, as evidenced by this cool little envelope in the hardshell case pocket which contained the key, and a bracket wrench, along with instructions for maintaining your Montgomery Ward banjo. Even had the tag.

Don't find many like this.