Author Topic: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)  (Read 19249 times)

edwardofhuncote

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #270 on: July 07, 2022, 04:34:09 PM »
So things at work got Krazy, with a capital K this Spring, and once again my Scroll Shop had to get mothballed for the bill-payin' gig. Not all bad though... see, I have become a full-time Water Treatment mentor to 4 very bright kids (not really kids; age 18-24, just kids to me at 53) who have worked very hard this year, and as of last week, all four of my trainees are now liscensed Waterworks Operators. They still have a ways to go for their full Virginia liscensure, but they are on their way. I've built myself a team that I hope in a year will render me obsolete. I'm so proud of them I could explode some days, but very tired too. And definitely ready for a break.

I'm sitting up here in the shop tonight, looking at a bass I just did a little bit of setup and repair on... thinkin', yeah... I miss this. So maybe a few more posts of my goofy loothier nonsense this Fall.

Here was a creative little wedge clamp job I had to dream up for this one. I can't remember ever fixing a seam separation here. Ever. Weird-o-rama. It's like they forgot to glue the blocks to the corners.

Anyway. Lights out again.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #271 on: July 07, 2022, 08:16:48 PM »
Hope you're able to get back in the shop soon.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #272 on: July 08, 2022, 03:11:52 PM »
Nice work! :)

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #273 on: July 18, 2022, 04:12:53 PM »
Well, the Ol' Man hung it up at the Rock Factory last Friday afternoon... 44 years and 8 months after picking up the hammer.


Not sure yet if this means he'll be building any more Honeytone banjos, or any whittling at all. So far, he ain't done much but hang out with his new friend Rosie. It remains to be seen just how long my Momma is gonna' put up with these two hangin' around in her she-shed, corruptin' the groove.  ;D

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #274 on: July 18, 2022, 04:18:59 PM »
Please extend my congratulations & best wishes to Popofhuncote!

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #275 on: July 18, 2022, 05:13:03 PM »
Dad and Rosie look happy.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #276 on: November 16, 2022, 03:10:25 PM »
Took on a couple jobs for my Shop lately... been trying to keep the incoming work to just restringing and setup, rather than major repairs. I still don't have the time to put in up here. The public service career is uhhhh... well. It's a livin'. I have a whole new class of trainees, and I'm so burned out after a day that an hour up in the shop in the evening is about all I can afford.


Anyway, sometimes you get a little gift... this old Czechoslovakian bass had a wonky fingerboard that needed planing before restringing. I didn't realize until I wet the wood to raise the grain, but wow... it was a beautiful piece of flamey walnut. How it ended up on a Czech bass with a European birch neck is anyone's guess. After polishing up, it looks spectacular. I'll probably string it up tomorrow and return it to the store Friday.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #277 on: November 16, 2022, 04:39:21 PM »
 Nice.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #278 on: November 16, 2022, 10:42:18 PM »
Wondering how common flame walnut is for a fingerboard and the age of this bass?

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #279 on: November 17, 2022, 03:58:35 AM »
Wondering how common flame walnut is for a fingerboard and the age of this bass?


Common to see walnut fingerboards on American basses, less often on European basses. My gig bass is a German import with a walnut fingerboard on a birch neck. I think just lucky this piece had those little curls of flame figure. This one... I'd guess it's post-WW2 import, maybe 1950's.  Nice bass for what it is. Sounds fantastic, nice balance, good growly tone with the chromesteel strings I put on last night. I still need to do some final tweaks to the action.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #280 on: November 18, 2022, 01:09:17 PM »
The Czech bass went back to work today.  ;D


I made a couple more little adjustments, and zipped it up in the case. Returned it to Fret Mill Music for my customer to pick up at their convenience. It sounds like they might have a couple more jobs down there for me soon.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #281 on: November 18, 2022, 02:10:41 PM »
Keep 'em coming; I love all these pics.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #282 on: December 03, 2022, 04:00:51 AM »
Here's an experimental project I'll share... I've been posting about this one over on the UMGF because I needed help finding a source for CNC cut replacement necks. There are some really sharp luthiers who hang out there, a couple I know a little bit.

The backstory first; I've had this old Martin 12-string for almost twenty years, a 1969 D-12-20. Style 20 is almost indistinguishable from Styles 19 and 18... a little bit of purfling and binding is about all. If they made anything other than 12-string Dreadnoughts in Style 20, I've never seen one. So I got this beautiful old guitar... can count on the fingers of one hand the times its its gotten used. I remember recording with it a couple times, when we needed a jangly rhythm guitar. The acoustic folk band I was in had a little more use for it. I put it up for sale, along with an old Martin mandolin at the local music store I do bass repair/setup for. The mandolin sold, this guitar just sat. So I picked it up last weekend, and started thinking...

It desperately needs a neck reset. Just to keep it playable, the bridge has been shaved almost flat. Other than that, it's pretty clean. No cracks, couple dings, amazing mahogany sides and back, kinda' ordinary spruce top, rosewood (probably Brazilian in '69) fingerboard, and what's left of the bridge.

I talked to my buddy and mentor Ward Elliott about the neck reset, and sure, he'd help me with that... but I started wondering, what if this guitar was a 6-string instead of a 12...? Now we're back to the front. I found a source for 12-fret Dreadnought necks from a CNC machine, that come with the dovetail cut, even a truss-rod channel routed and headstock slots cut. That was a big hurdle, I can handle things from there in my own shop. So I put that old Martin on the workbench and started measuring things. It was about that time I came to the realization, Martin 12-strings, even though they are D-size, are short-scale. Oops! That changes everything. Instead of 25.34", these came with 24.84". That moves the saddle a half-inch back. Not impossible to deal with, considering the bridge footprint is oversized anyway.

I took some sage advice and spent the rest of the afternoon doing a temporary conversion, just to see -not to put too fine a point on it- how will it sound with half the strings it was designed for. In addition to the shorter scale, these things were incredibly overbuilt, inside and out, to withstand the extra tension of all those strings. The top soundboard has a third tone bar (brace) glued laterally right behind the huge rosewood bridgeplate. Ward joked, when I sent him a picture, there was enough lumber for two guitars in there! I eased the original bone nut out of its slot, and made a new one with a scrap of ebony. I removed the old 6-on-a-plate machines from each side of the headstock and mounted an old set of nickel Waverly W-16's I had stashed away, skipping every other hole; perfect fit. Looks a little bit funny with that long headstock, but it worked. Getting the string spacing approximated at the bridge was harder. I ended up filing 'keeper' slots in the saddle to hold the strings where they needed to be, then staggered the mounting between the doubled rows of bridge pins. Again, looks goofy, but works!

Finally,  strung it up. I've been passing it around for a few guitar players to test-drive. I'll say this; it should not sound like it does. I am quite surprised at how loud it is. The tone is a little weird. I think some of that is because the neck angle is so shallow and the saddle is so low that there's almost no break angle over it. That's a pretty big deal on an acoustic guitar, or really any stringed thing... that downward pressure has so much to do transfer of vibe from string to top. So I think that improves vastly with a neck reset.

I think it's worth doing, so I think we're going to convert it to a 6-string. There are a few things to decide, maybe a short-scale, maybe a long-scale. We'll make a new bridge of course, that will be oversized, but drilled for 6 pins. The bridgeplate will have to be plugged and re-drilled. But we'll save the original 12-string neck intact for a future retrofit. Nothing done that can't be undone. I already have everything else for the project.

Here's a few pictures:

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #283 on: December 03, 2022, 08:12:34 AM »
If they made anything other than 12-string Dreadnoughts in Style 20, I've never seen one.

M-20 Steve Earl.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #284 on: December 03, 2022, 08:58:25 AM »
If they made anything other than 12-string Dreadnoughts in Style 20, I've never seen one.

M-20 Steve Earl.

Peter (who understands your desire for a guitar you will use - but mourns the loss of a fine 12-string)


Well I'll be dipped in sugar. There it is - they did make something else. And I reckon Style 20 is actually an older, more obscure one from before 1898 too. They revived it briefly for this or that. Need to check the Book of Longworth for that. Cool.


Not a lost 12-string Coz, just dormant. My whole plan came together as a result of the desire to not destroy the original neck, specifically so it could be restored someday.  ;)