Author Topic: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)  (Read 19311 times)

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #240 on: February 13, 2022, 11:28:57 AM »
Snowy Sunday afternoon. Up here in the Shop, alternately playin' guitar, drinkin' coffee, and workin' on the inlay for #28. I'm a little bit past halfway done, six pieces to go. It's just so tedious, I have to take breaks. Oh, here's what I have in mind for the faux trc/badge too.


The Ol' Man sent me a text he might stop by later to inspect.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #241 on: February 13, 2022, 11:37:11 AM »
Nice.  What's your inlay material?

Peter
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #242 on: February 13, 2022, 11:48:43 AM »
Nice.  What's your inlay material?

Peter


Ivory veneer, from recycled piano key overlays. A buddy of mine works on pianos and saves the stuff for me. It isn't thick enough for anything other than shims or... inlay. I've used it quite a few times.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #243 on: February 13, 2022, 02:00:01 PM »
It's done. All the pieces are in, and epoxy is filled around... my nerves are shot. Going for a walk, then I'm going to annoy the neighbors with some really loud guitaracket.


(they'll be watching a football game anyway...)  ::)

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #244 on: February 13, 2022, 04:15:40 PM »
Nice.  What's your inlay material?

Peter


Ivory veneer, from recycled piano key overlays. A buddy of mine works on pianos and saves the stuff for me. It isn't thick enough for anything other than shims or... inlay. I've used it quite a few times.

Sweet.  Reduce, reuse, recycle!

The current issue of Vintage Guitar has an article on a Spanish guitar that is the only known example by a guy from the turn of the last century (whose name escapes me, and the mag's downstairs, but he's apparently legendary), and it talks about how common it was then & there for luthiers to use wood salvaged from furniture.  Steve Cripe, who built Lightning Bolt, Jerry's last electric, made the outsides of the sandwich from coco bolo from an antique Chinese opium bed.


You are in good company, Sir!

Peter
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #245 on: February 14, 2022, 05:21:59 PM »
Just a couple little air bubbles I'll have to drop-fill... looks pretty okay. Dad really likes the looks of this one. I'm liking it too.


Next; frets... lotsa' frets. I really, really, really, don't like fretwork. This is where I put the hard-sell on Pops.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #246 on: February 14, 2022, 06:28:09 PM »
Very nice. 👍🏽

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #247 on: February 14, 2022, 07:27:59 PM »
The current issue of Vintage Guitar has an article on a Spanish guitar that is the only known example by a guy from the turn of the last century (whose name escapes me, and the mag's downstairs, but he's apparently legendary),

Peter

Rafael Casana.

Peter
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #248 on: February 22, 2022, 06:49:29 AM »
Update on #22-28... lemesee... since last time:


We finished up the headstock inlay, and engraved the faux truss rod cover with the Roman numeral for a nameplate, and the brand into the 19th fret. I do this by hand of course, with a Dremel and a small scribe bit. Always have, so they all look kinda' hand-signed. If you're wondering; yes, it's very tedious and a slip means start-over. I got these on the first take.

Went with aluminum wire for side markers. Nothing fancy about it, just drill a hole between the frets, dip the wire into some CA glue, press in, clip off, file flush. Nice shiny dots. I put two at the 12th fret.

Finally... frets. This neck wasn't bound, so that made the job exponentially easier. I used mandolin fretwire first of all... it's a smaller gauge, but works well for banjo too. I like to do one more good dressing of the fingerboard before hammer time, get it as smooth as possible, then drag a fret saw through the slots one more time to clean them out. After that, cut the frets to length, and pound them in with that nylon hammer. I've used a piece of leather to back up the wood, and my bandsaw table as an anvil for this job... forever. Three or four firm blows. Be very, very concentrated when doing this. After all of them are in, file the ends flush, and bevel. Then shape the fret ends with a triangle file. Polish up with fine sanding. Use your hands to feel for sharp fret ends and just keep working until you get them all. I hate fretwork. My Ol' Man loves it. This time though, I think he loved watching me do it. I got a good job... a really good one. They look like little silver railroad ties. One little extra, I filled the little space underneath each fret with some rosewood infused epoxy to 'disappear' the slots. Makes for a nice finished look on an unbound neck.

After that... finish sanding. One of my favorite jobs. I can get comfortable in my chair, listen to some tunes and work at it for an hour or two. Most of the wood in this neck is cherry, and not very grainy, so it went quickly. I raised the grain with some water twice, and buffed with 0000 steel wool. Slick as a peeled onion.

I ordered some hardware... have to admit there was some sticker-shock. What tuning machines were available at my old suppliers were not really what I wanted, and expensive. What I wanted had fallen victim to the all-too-familiar "supply chain interuption". Turns out, Gotoh makes a nice-looking set of nickel-plated 4:1 planetary machines, and a matching 5th string peg for less than $100. So that's what we went with. Also ordered a dual coordinator rod set. (this is what fastens the neck to the shell, and controls to some degree, the draft angle)

Next up - time for some finish. This one is getting a reddish-brown wash, and oil finish. It's supposed to be reminiscent of one made around 1900.
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #249 on: February 22, 2022, 06:54:36 AM »
That must feel really good to put together something that beautiful.  Bravo!
* a bunch of the text is too small for these old eyes

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #250 on: February 22, 2022, 07:01:19 AM »
Thanks Paul, yeah the Font Gremlin. He replaced the Picture Gremlin here. I can't tell until I post something, but there is some combination of characters that causes the format to resize the font from that point down in the post to 2pt. Takes a minute to realize and fix. That's why so many of my posts have multiple edits.  ;D  I got it straightened out now.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #251 on: February 22, 2022, 02:49:20 PM »
Sneak-peek at the color hitting the wood.

This is always my favorite part... mixing the colors, getting just the right hue. Pops is pretty happy with the results here. (I am too...) Won't be much to see for a while now... just lotsa' layers, lotta' curing time between, and lotsa' rubbin'.

*that little knot on the back of the headstock... I couldn't have planned a happier accident.

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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #252 on: February 22, 2022, 03:10:23 PM »
Beautiful.

Peter
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #253 on: February 23, 2022, 06:56:32 AM »
Absolutely amazing!!  I love watching the creation of beauty!  Thanks for sharing so much of what you calmly do... I'll
 just continue to shake my head, and admire!
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Re: The Scroll Shop (Ed of H's Shop Thread)
« Reply #254 on: February 24, 2022, 11:03:05 AM »
The coordinator rod set came yesterday. We're only going to use the lower rod for this project... I'm trying to decide whether to explain why...


Okay; banjo construction school. Until the 1920's, longer depending upon the maker's design, traditional banjo necks had a wooden dowel-stick that ran from the heel of the neck through the shell (round drum part) and secured the neck in place as well as control its pitch and attitude. I'm not certain who was responsible for the advent of the coordinator rod, but Gibson adopted it in wide use by the early 20's as banjos were a hot item in high demand. Coordinator rods are threaded onto lag screws that thread into the heel of the neck. This makes for a very solid, firm bond that can also be easily disassembled or adjusted. The end of the rod that comes through the shell secures an L-bracket that the tailpiece fastens to. We'll get to that later...


My problem; standard length of this lower rod is 9-3/4" because a standard modern 11" diameter (outside dia.) shell is 3/4" thick. The vintage 11" shell I'm working with here is only about 5/16" so thick, so I needed a rod set with this vintage style nut that makes up the space.


As you can see here, all dry fit perfectly. Class dismissed!


I'm pretty happy with how this finish is looking! Those little bits of ivory really pop now, and our maple veneer shows up nice.