Author Topic: Alembic neck issue  (Read 865 times)

goran

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Alembic neck issue
« on: September 27, 2018, 12:17:25 PM »
I have an issue with my neck, it's not that it bothers me that much but I'm just wondering if there is a way to change this.

So my english is second language and only I can explain this is that I see that the neck is not horizontal with strings, don't know how that happens because it's a neck-through.

Here is a pic, so someone can explain this, and is there a way to get it back in position? Check pic.

Thank you in advance!

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Re: Alembic neck issue
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2018, 01:58:31 PM »
Goran, to say that you have a problem sugests the neck is warped in such way that is hard to play or set it in tune. Your picture doesn't help to figure what it is going on, though. Exept for an aparent off center strings against neck lamination, this bass looks pretty normal to me.

A neck that can't be tuned would be a heavy problem, but visual alignment doesn't, simply because little changes in shot position or view angle can really mess our perception about shapes and paralels (even more if we're talking about aligning different gauge string). Lets assume if it sounds and plays good, well... it is good.

If it is a neck bow problem, you can always adjust the dual truss rods (there are some nice topics writen about that here at the club). Even if the neck is twisting along its axis you can minimize the problem adjusting both truss rods differently. And you can always ask a luthier to remake the entire fingerboard to compensate the warp, if the issue is really big. He must defret, level the wood and refret again... a expensive fix. The neck keeps warped but the fingerboard gets straight.
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goran

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Re: Alembic neck issue
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2018, 03:37:06 PM »
That's what I mean, as you said: "aparent off center strings against neck lamination, this bass looks pretty normal to me."

Same here but sometimes when I'm in upper register and wanna do vibrato G sting slips away from fretboard.

Just asking if this can be done with truss rod?

It's not wrong, but would like to be more to center.

Hope you understand.
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Re: Alembic neck issue
« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2018, 03:49:39 PM »
To change this you would either cut new slots in the saddles you have if there is room, or you can replace the saddles and cut new slots and save the originals. The saddles are available in our online store.

Even under the best circumstances, the strings always look off center to the neck laminates as the strings are not the same size. The setup is by hand, and in the mid-late seventies, the particular setup people tended to have a little more room on the bass side than the treble side. Our current spec is .15 inches from the edge of the string to the edge of the fingerboard.

Also note that the angle of the fret bevel enters into sliding over the edge. If it's too much of an angle, that will also require refretting to your specifications.

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Re: Alembic neck issue
« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2018, 10:39:48 PM »
Thanks for answers.
As Mario said, it's not that big issue.

Bass still works great.



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Re: Alembic neck issue
« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2018, 02:33:17 AM »
Yea Mica you are right, it looks like I was made intentional, I know see how slots in saddles are made, thanks for clearing that.

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Re: Alembic neck issue
« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2018, 04:40:06 AM »
Now I got what you've meant, Goran. I have to avoid hard bending the G string, too. I ended geting used to bend it more towards fretboard center than off (not a great solution, but ended being easier than import new saddles and having to reassemble the bridge).

Sometime ago I was wondering about getting new saddles because of a string buzz issue and would seize the opportunity to increase that clearence too, moving the D and G saddles groove slightly towards fretboard center, but was insecure regarding leting someone to make changes on Alembic original settings wich I really like overall.

Ended that I solved the buzz problem differently and never bought new saddles. Opted to readjust how far I bend G string and I'm fine with that for now.
« Last Edit: September 28, 2018, 06:41:00 AM by mario_farufyno »
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goran

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Re: Alembic neck issue
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2018, 10:22:47 AM »
Yea will do the same, I have no buzzes on this baby, so it will stay like this.

I was actually afraid that the neck is the problem, so got into panic... But all good
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Thanks!
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