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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2018, 06:11:08 AM »
Keep us posted.  Wishing you the best...
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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2018, 08:00:36 AM »
Greg, perhaps your strap is the cause.  You mentioned that you use a 4-inch wide strap.  I’ve tried those in the past and found that they ride up on my neck, placing pressure on my neck that is uncomfortable, so I stopped using them.  I now use a three- inch wide padded Levy strap and have no more neck issues.
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I will second Rob's opinion about the strap. I have neck and upper back issues also, so I always used 4-inch straps on my basses when I started playing heavier instruments. I eventually discovered that the straps were pressing against my neck which exacerbated the issues. When I went back to 3-inch straps, there seemed to be improvement for me. Still have the pain, but not as bad. Oddly, I've found using the old Ace guitar straps is easier on my neck when playing. All this experimenting is why I own about 20 guitar straps!

Sorry to hear you are feeling like this, and I hope you find some relief very soon!

I appreciate it fellas. :)

I'm sure holding a bass over my shoulder doesn't help things, but I had headaches from neck injuries two years before I ever played a note. Again, I never have any pain from playing... actually, many a time I've had a splitting headache at downbeat, and after two or three sets, I feel fine. There's never been a predictable pattern to them. Some days are just especially bad. A couple hours ago in the office here, I couldn't even see straight... pain was coming in waves, could hardly breathe, but this minute I feel almost fine.

I'm used to the headaches, but this numbness in my hand is really making me crazy.  :-[

My PC doctor's office is scheduling an expedited appointment with a neurologist. I hope that means quickly.

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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2018, 08:13:05 AM »
The 'new' symptoms with your hands and fingers sounds very much like cervical nerve impingement, much as Zut mentions above. Over a decade ago I began to feel the effects of degenerative disks in the cervical spine (confirmed through x-rays and scans). Began as shoulder aches and headaches. As the issue progressed over a year's passing it added the tingling and numbness in my arm and hand. While I never lost actual dexterity, loosing the sensations of fingers is quite concerning. I went through the run of steroid injections directly into the spine, which offered little to no relief. End of the story was spinal surgery to remove two disks and fuse C5 thru C7 vertebrae. The positive note is that when I awoke from the surgery all pain and numbness was gone, and has not returned (lower back, now that's another issue).
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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2018, 08:55:01 AM »
I will add to beware of chiropractic.  Jerking your joints around is neither natural nor healthy; there is actually a medical condition called "chiropractic paralysis", wherein adjustment leads to para- or quadriplegia.   Had I let one of those types wrench my back instead getting medical attention, I likely would be among that number.

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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2018, 12:08:57 PM »
Greg, I too have neck and back issues from a motorcycle accident and college basketball (elbows to the head etc.). I will share with you what a neuro surgeon told me, and that's "Make surgery your last option!" I have had the most success with deep tissue massage (Rolfing).  When you injure a muscle it stiffens to protect itself and in doing so can put stress on the vertebrae causing them to impinge nerves. getting those muscles to release can sometimes take the pressure off of the nerves. from the sound of what you're dealing with, getting images (MRT, CT Scan) might help determine what's the next appropriate step.  No pun intended, but keep your head up! I'm praying for you!
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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2018, 06:24:30 PM »
Parachute harness+straplocks=full body bass strap with explosive bolts=ergonomic bass sensation, or onstage pyrotechnic disaster prototype?

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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2018, 07:02:43 PM »
Gregory, sending you healing thoughts and wishes.

Hard to offer advice although my initials are PHD I am far from a doctor. 

The complexities and connections are vast within us and inputs and environment can also impact health.  Darrell touched on deep tissue massage, I have had experience with someone who does Assisted Release Therapy (ART) and to me it is a deep tissue type thingy geared towards muscular/ skeletal issues which creates inflammation and nerve issues.   Sometimes the source of discomfort is removed from the location of where the pain is felt.  My experiences with ART have been nothing short of amazing.



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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #22 on: April 01, 2018, 12:34:04 PM »
I am addressing the problems people have associated with having something heavy (bass or guitar, for example) pushing down on the back and neck. 
An alternative to a guitar strap can be seen at www.hoverharness.com  . UP-FRONT DISCLOSURE: THIS IS MY PRODUCT.  I am not just trying to make a sale; it is just hard reading about people playing in pain.
Forgive me and PLEASE inform me if I am out-of-line mentioning this here.
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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #23 on: April 01, 2018, 12:58:08 PM »
Absolutely cool with me Rich.  8)  I think it's a great idea that I may avail myself of some day. My troubles were well on their way before bass happened.  ;D

In my business Paul, we like to say pH D is for post-hole-digger.   ;D

I do appreciate all the commentary here. I really didn't expect a solution to come from my thread... just needed to say it somewhere. One of the cool things about this place is how our conversations sometimes go off in related tangents.

I've had a few days to sweat over this latest hurdle, and it's really down to this: Examination; check. Diagnosis; coming soon. Treatment; contingent upon the prior. It's really that simple. I'm cool with it.

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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #24 on: April 01, 2018, 06:43:52 PM »

In my business Paul, we like to say pH D is for post-hole-digger.   ;D


My dad always said his stood for "Piled Higher & Deeper" (this being the Wickershams' living room, we won't go into what that made his BS & MS - but the first should be obvious, and the second started with "More"....)

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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #25 on: April 01, 2018, 09:21:10 PM »
Having one, I always thought that "the PhD" should be pronounced as pretentiously as possible ("Philosophiae Doctor") to make fun of the concept of spending 4-6+ years putsuing potentially esoteric research projects.  Having a master gives one a way cooler title that people cannot grasp: "Scientiae Magister/Artium Magister" or "Magister Scientiae/Magister Artium".  This is the pinnacle of snoot, and just means "teacher", which is totally cool to go around expounding baselessly on stuff. 

But here's the kicka$$ down-low: you also get more and more nifty hats and robes as you accrue degrees and honor society elections, and EVEN RINGS that show you level of education, allowing you to run around and between cars, pretend to be an OG wizard fighting evil in rush hour traffic if you get some flash paper, some magnesium, and a long stick.

I mean, since this isn't the 1900s-1980s, PhDs today strike me as unimpressive and I've seen a palate of folks go for them over 20 years, including me (undergrad, U Chicago, 1998-2002, got some BAMF in Chemistry award; Research Technician, 2002-3, got jumped by reality; The Scripps Research Institute, 2003-2006, M.Sc., non-terminal masters as I went toe to toe with lousy people, lost, and was terminal; Pharma, 2007-2009, the recession; 2010-2011, USC, more Technician stuff for less money; USC, PhD in Pharmacology, 2011-2017, 2017-18, Admiral Beneath Middle C, the Kitchen, the Couch, the Bed, and Dominion over pets). 

Here's the kicker: so what?  A PhD won't do the same thing as it did 20-30 years ago, and it really has to do with the individual to do something profound and respect.  I'm dumb as a post, yet I got one.  Rosalind Franklin was a superstar and she had one, and then died for her science.  I had hamburger today.  Caveat Emptor.

This is not directed at anyone or anyone's parents or anyone else, but true intellect pops up without wizarding wear.  In fact, I have found PhD programs to be mostly political, today.  Hence the three advisors at USC: #1 didn't get tenure, which is a signal to run and get a new gig, which I did, and he didn't like that I would not get keelhauled as he went beneath the waves and spoke ill of me as far as he could and took my name off of some papers; #2 was highstrung and an itty bitty peacock with a great bark, no bite, a big bank account, and personal connections in the academic hierarchy that supposed were reinforced financially (it sucked; I was 3 months from graduating on a second life, and I got dumped because of ego and me toeing the legalities he was crossing); #3 let me drink tequila in mt office and do chemistry to the entire Roth-era Van Halen catalogue in a t-shirt, so long as I brought results.  I did.  I am now a freaking wizard and an Admiral Beneath Middle C.

The issue here that I allude to is that both times in a graduate program, there was so much malarkey that would never fly in a small business or customer service, which is where I set the bar for efficiency.  Being an assistant Professor and kissing your graduate student on the lips, in public, next to the Korean restaurant where I am sneaking out for lunch A MILE FROM SCHOOL, after having just become a father, and then coming over to basically say "AND YOUDS ANIMALS DIDN'T SEE NOTHING, YA HERE?!", is totally hack.  And that's the environment in which PhDs today are trained and degrees conferred.  So...check the vintage, y'all, and one of us wizardin' folk says something, vet it like it's a sick cat and take them to the mat.  Heck, with all of the Federal and private funding in science and other venues going to make PhDs affordable (prior to recent events), YOU PAID FOR IT! 

Git you some, because when certain PhDs became free to get, assuming you could hack it, we basically have a debt to society, frankly.  Sooo...Gryffindor, much?

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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #26 on: April 01, 2018, 10:19:48 PM »
Rich used me as a beta tester on the earlier Hover Harness - it works! The bass floats in front of you and no neck/ shoulder strain.

Post hole digger!  I need one for the three point on my tractor (referencing body aches!).

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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2018, 04:39:02 PM »
Things are finally moving.


After a 6-day regimen of prednisone, I haven't gotten worse, maybe even a touch better. Headache comes and goes instead of constant, and my hand is still tingling, but not really numb. Sorta' feels like I'm automatically adjusting to the handicap more than actually getting better.


Had an MRI today... piece of cake. It was 2 hours long, but luckily I'm not the slightest bit claustrophobic. Honestly if it hadn't been so loud in that tube, I could have taken a nap. Can't say I enjoyed the contrast IV as much... I would like to know how in the world they can squirt something into your veins that makes you suddenly taste a mouthful of pennies? That can't be good, but the chicky-in-charge assured me it was plumb necessary, so... Ick. :P


Next thing I knew it was over... they handed me a CD with my scans burned on it, and sent me to the neurosurgeon's office with them. I'm told he will review the pictures and the report from the radiologist, and schedule an appointment for the verdict. How soon that appointment comes is contingent upon how urgent my case is, they told me.





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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #28 on: April 11, 2018, 07:06:33 PM »
A thrill a minute, eh, Gregory?  Monday I get to have two MRIs - one without contrast, then another with.

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Re: Is There A Doctor in the House?
« Reply #29 on: April 12, 2018, 07:19:20 AM »
Peter; on the upside, maybe you'll get a free CD too!