Dan I love my Rogues (Now I have that out of the way) LOL! The Rogue's balance extremely well with 0 neck dive. I don't think you can go wrong with either one. As other members have stated, with the exception of the neck lams they are very similar. One of my Rogues has neck lams the other doesn't, they sound similar. I think the difference in sound is the woods that they are constructed with. The one with neck lams is a custom. The electronics of the standard Rogue's and Europa's are the same and I would say for live performances are probably the best for quick tonal changes. Either will give you crystal clear sound that can and will cut through just about any mix. From a price standpoint I would think somewhere between $3,500-$5,000. The other thing I would tell you is that you don't see many of either for sale that often, so if you really want it, let the seller know that you are really serious and engage him him into some serious negotiations and close the deal!