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craig

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Which wood conditioner to use on bass
« on: September 29, 2017, 12:06:16 AM »
I have a 2000 Excel bass and want to know what i should use to condition the wood?

Front, back and neck

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Re: Which wood conditioner to use on bass
« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2017, 03:55:01 AM »
For the fretboard you might want to try pure lemon oil ( lots of discussion about fretboard oiling on this site). http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=210.0

Alembic polish for the body if it has a non-oil finish. http://alembic.stores.yahoo.net/preaminstocn.html

Flitz metal polish for the hardware  http://alembic.stores.yahoo.net/preaminstocn.html

I’m sure others will have comments as well, nice bass!

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Re: Which wood conditioner to use on bass
« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2017, 09:53:31 AM »
The finish may look like it's an oil finish, but more likely it's the polyurethane finish that Epics, Orions, Excels and Rogues came with originally.

You may want to look into getting the pickup screws back the way they were intended, see The FAQ topic in adjusting the pickup height here http://club.alembic.com/index.php?topic=214.0

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Re: Which wood conditioner to use on bass
« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2017, 11:55:24 AM »
+1 on the pickup screws.

There is a simple elegance to that bass that is absolutely beautiful.

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Re: Which wood conditioner to use on bass
« Reply #4 on: September 29, 2017, 07:40:23 PM »
Lovely bass!

Here is what Mica wrote in the FAQ section:

Polyurethane Satin Natural Finish 
original Epic, Orion and Rogue models 

While this finish looks like an oiled finish, it is a fully sealed polyurethane clear coating. This finish protects from moisture exchange, but since it is thin, the wood is not as protected from scratching and denting as it is with the polyester finish.   
 
Clean the finish with any polish specifically made for guitars, like Alembic's Supreme Polish. Do not oil the finish, as it will just sit on top of the paint. 
 
You may also wipe the finish with a damp soft cloth and dry with a separate dry soft cloth if it is heavily soiled.


And yes, as Adriaan pointed out, the pickup should be remounted.  The top right and bottom left screws should be under the pickup.

- Remove all four screws and then the pickup.

- Put the top right and bottom left screws back in (I can't remember if they're different sizes; if so, then the shorter ones go in first).  If you want the pickup parallel with the strings (not angled), then these screws should be the same height above the wood.

- Place the pickup on top of these two screws.

- Now put the top left and bottom right screws in.  Tighten til just snug; do not over-tighten or the shell will break.

The link Adriaan cited explains how to adjust them.

And yes, pure lemon oil for the neck.  Here's the FAQ post on that.

And yes, Flitz for non-plated hardware, which on your bass is probably just the bridge.  The tail piece is usually plated.

craig

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Thanks
« Reply #5 on: September 30, 2017, 12:40:06 PM »
Thank you to everyone who replied...
I purchased the polish from Alembic.... Question on the pick up screws being put in incorrectly...

is it causing any harm to have all four as shown? the tone of this bass sounds awesome right now and wouldn't want to change that...

Would i get better tone by placing 2 screws under as it came from the factory?

Thanks again for the replies... Love this BASS!!!

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Re: Which wood conditioner to use on bass
« Reply #6 on: September 30, 2017, 01:08:19 PM »
If you have no plans to adjust the pickup height you can certainly leave them as is. But... you could also put the screws in the way they are supposed to go so you would have better options to adjust the pickup if you decide to experiment later. Putting the screws in the right way will not make it so that you can't adjust the pickup so that is the same angle and height as you currently have it. Nice bass by the way...

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Re: Which wood conditioner to use on bass
« Reply #7 on: September 30, 2017, 01:09:42 PM »
Generally, the further from the strings the pickup is, the cleaner the tone.  The closer to the strings the pickup is, the louder the signal.  So yes, pickup height affects tone and volume.

Further, the adjustment system allows for angling the pickup so that, for instance, the pickup is closer to the E string and further away from the G string.

So, the adjustment system gives you options to further dial-in and refine your tone, and can adjust to your plucking hand technique.