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corny

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Getting used to long scale
« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2004, 12:11:34 AM »
Paul,
Being impressed by your rig I wonder if you play on public occasions now and then in Belgium. I live close to the Belgian border and I surely would like to see and hear you and your beautiful Bonnie through the F1-X and all the other gear in your rack. Please notify me.
 
John,
1. Thanks for the compliments. You make me blush.
2. About the higher string-tension on a long scale: If you imagine 2 extremes, a 10 meter long string and a 20 cm long string, I would say that it would be easier to push up the middle of the long string with one finger than pushing up the short one. So there would be less tension on the long string, or not?
 
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« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2004, 01:41:35 AM »
Hi Cor,
 
welcome ...by all means!
 
Check out:
www.drive-band.be
That's the fastest way to check where we play in Belgium. Most of them are on public occasions.
The other band BLUE STUFF is not so frequently on scene. Unfortunaltely the following 2 gigs are private venues.
I save your E-mail adress and I'll let you know.
 
Paul the bad one

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« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2004, 03:56:08 AM »
All,
 
    Read this thread with great interest.  I own a Spyder and a Europa, so I think my perspective runs the gamut.  On the Spyder, the low F is the only note that is difficult for me to reach (I'm 5' 8 tall).  I will say that you really have to reach way out on the neck, though - my arm is damn near fully extended to get to the lower registers.  Like everyone else here, though, the tones are truly worth it.  I have noticed that I tend to have the bass itself extending at about a 30 degree angle away from my body when playing it - thing this is due more the body shape than anything else.  And the Spyder is heavy.  Real heavy.  But for some reason, it doesn't really bother me.  Must be due to my years of walking around in the woods with a rucksack!  A wide Alembic strap helps as well.  I imagine Mike and Oliver can comment more comprehensively on the Spyder, though - they've gigged with theirs more often (particularly Mike).
 
My Europa, on the other hand, is more comfortable to play.  The weight is just about right for me, and the tones, well, nothing short of amazing.  I have no problems reaching anything on the neck.  I bought it because I wanted the Alembic sound and quality in a Jazz Bass-style package, and the Europa was pretty close body-style and playability-wise.  I thought about an Orion (which is basically a set-neck Europa), but I really liked the idea of a neck-through design, and the electronics (if you've never had the opportunity to mess with the quick tone change switches, do so at your earliest opportunity).  Superbass Steve made it possible, and it's just a beautiful instrument.
 
Regards,
 
Alan

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« Reply #48 on: October 20, 2004, 08:58:02 AM »
Cor,
You're welcome.  You're one damn sexy piece of humanity..
As for the string analogy, it isn't valid unless the two strings are of the same gauge and tuned to the same pitch.  The longer string will have exponentially more tension when tuned to the same pitch as the shorter.  Try using a capo or some such to stop the strings at the 2nd fret, then detune the bass to EADG at that fret and you'll see what I mean.  Floppity floppity flop..  Rami has one or more killer 36-inch scale basses and will attest to the benefits of extra-long scale.  I have a Lakland with a 35-inch scale, and while it sounds nice and tight I do have more difficulty popping on it because of the string tension.  That and the fact that I don't pop worth a darn, but I digress...  
I think it would be funny if we all popped in on Paul TBO the same weekend for beers and a jam.  Of course I haven't made it up to see Smokin' Dave yet, and he's only an hour or so away.  Maybe someday soon...
John

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« Reply #49 on: October 20, 2004, 09:16:55 AM »
Cool ...a garden full of yapping bass-players trying to convince each other what that other knows for a long time already!
Hehehehehe ...and basses ...lot's of basses ...and pictures ...and we can only play on crappy amps. So we do a contest for the best sounding bass on the most crappy amp!!
Mmmmm ...and brother Alan will make brontosaurus-ribs in spicy suace for the bunch ....
and yams from Mica
 
well ....

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« Reply #50 on: October 20, 2004, 09:22:18 AM »
Crappy amps!  I love it.  Obviously you've found my soft spot!

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« Reply #51 on: October 20, 2004, 09:22:44 AM »
Paul,
If you start going like that we really have to move this thread to the Dreaming for Now...  section.

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« Reply #52 on: October 20, 2004, 10:12:33 AM »
heeehooo ...brontosaurus-rib IS LONG SCALE ...and seen the dimesions of our garden you can do long scale talking with the bunch of Alembi-wackos present!
 
Oh well ...just dreaming indeed!!!

corny

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« Reply #53 on: October 20, 2004, 11:58:28 PM »
Guess you're right about the string thing Dave. Good thing I never attempted to study physics.
 
And Paul, I'll have Flemish fries with lots of mayonaise with the ribs please.
 
Cor.