Author Topic: 2x12...any thoughts? (Read 786 times)

David Houck · « **Reply #30 on:** December 28, 2004, 06:00:11 PM »

Hollis; yes, I checked out the website and alas there were no pictures. I was hoping that someone here who owns one might have a picture. I'm even thinking there may already be a picture of one here, perhaps in the showcase section.

David Houck · « **Reply #31 on:** December 28, 2004, 06:03:33 PM »

And sure enough, here it is:

hollis · « **Reply #32 on:** December 28, 2004, 06:26:29 PM »

Maybe so, I did several searches and came up with nothing, but I seem to remember seeing them somewhere around here myself. Well, if not, they'll probably post pics when they bring up the new and improved site.....

hollis · « **Reply #33 on:** December 28, 2004, 07:05:01 PM »

You da man!

bassman10096 · « **Reply #34 on:** December 29, 2004, 01:10:01 AM »

Just a note on the coating on the Dr Bass cabs: It's a definite plus. If I ever grow up and decide to keep my Bag End 18 permanently, Dr Bass has agreed to spray the cab for me, rendering it very well protected.

Qualitatively, its hard, shiny and has a wrinkly/nubby texture like the black tolex's on Peavey cabs. Since it's sprayed on, and very hard, objects tend to glance off when they hit, rather than digging in. I'm sure it'd be possible to cut it with enough force and/or a sharp enough edge, but you'd only cut the place you hit (no fabric to get under and rip). It is washable (for the clean-freaks and the slobs among us). I haven't tried to burn it and don't plan to...

David made a good point - None of the cabinets (boxes) we mentioned are custom in the true sense. They just have lots of options for loading them. To my knowledge, neither Dr Bass nor Ear Candy are willing to built off-size boxes that really get to the acoustic/space design issues. No manufacturer could cost-efficiently do that, since that very efficiency comes from standardization. For instance, Tim at Ear Candy explained he uses a CNC machine to cut sides and baffles, requiring extensive pre-programming. Marc Serio at DB cuts with less exotic tools, but has told me he'd treat a custom order on a special price basis. He is a little more open to the idea, since he also builds and installs pro-audio setups.

The other thing, Adam mentioned: Each of us is looking for cabs that fill a role for us. In my quest for my current rig, I bought, played and sold an Eden 210 XST and an Acme LowB2. I did not let go of either because it was a bad cab. I had just learned by trial and error (you know - the expensive way) that I liked the sound of 12's better than 10's for my current needs. I settled on Dr Bass for the reasons I mentioned above, and because I was sick of trying out cabs and manufacturers! There are plenty of great cabs I could still explore. Much of what I've gained from the Club is in the form of info and perspectives on equipment from folks I've come to respect.

It's 3 AM now. I must sleep. Sorry for the book.
Bill

David Houck · « **Reply #35 on:** December 29, 2004, 06:53:51 AM »

This has turned out to be quite a thought provoking thread. Lots of good points about cabs.

jlpicard · « **Reply #36 on:** December 29, 2004, 10:40:54 PM »

Stoney! If you're still there, I am using a VL-208 and a VL-110 both with the black EA logo on the front. Great tone from such small cabs! I am totally in love with the VL-208! gives such great definition and a nice growl when using a rear pickup. A pity these were discontinued. I wish I could find somemore. I am not sure I like the newer EA's as well (CL series). Mike

stoney · « **Reply #37 on:** December 30, 2004, 07:49:27 AM »

Michael,
Those VL's pop up occasionally.how loud do they get? I want to get back to the iAmp800 combo for a moment. That's the iAmp 800 amp and a CXL12 in a box. Now, Alone it is, as stated, pretty good. I've had it out & about several times. A few weeks ago I noticed some flatulance in it. I called EA and they sent a new piece of foam to install saying that they've had that problem, it's the design ....this should fix it. Well, it didn't work. I called EA and said,...send me a new speaker and I'll send the old one back if that's what's wrong (because it really sounded like the speaker had gone bad) Heck, they just replaced the entire box, paid for shipping both ways too. Now, I haven't really had this new box out much at all so I can't give you the low-down, nor can I speak for the CXL extension cab in the way of durability. But I do know this. I'm not entirely convinced that the combo box alone will handle what I usually need..Probably using that with the extension cab would...So.....I think the essence of this was to get a box that can definitely handle the lows...and of course provide that growl when called for.

Interestingly enough it doesn't seem like anyone has had any experience with the aforementioned Eden, Epifani or Aguilar 2x12's. I've been trying to research the Dr.Bass cabs though. They sound pretty well liked. I did have the ACME 2x10 but because of its low sensitivity (93db) it was shutting down my EA iAMP800.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYBODY
Stoney

stoney · « **Reply #38 on:** December 30, 2004, 11:13:15 AM »

Technical note on my iAMP 800 write up. The sliders are used to set the frequency, the knob is used to cut or boost.

NEW NOTE on the EA iAMPs. They are no longer making them with the built in Sabine tuner. Apparently Sabine couldn't provide enough chips to keep up with EA's demand. EA however now includes a parallel effects loop with the new models. I'd think that not being able to get a tuning chip from Sabine is like walking into McDonalds and not being able to get a hamberger!

bigredbass · « **Reply #39 on:** December 31, 2004, 10:01:53 AM »

By the way, any experience with the neodymium 12s like ampeg PortaBass cabs or the Neo's from GenzBenz?

J o e y

bassman10096 · « **Reply #40 on:** January 07, 2005, 08:20:25 PM »

Just received my Dr Bass 212 cabinet. It's rated at 900w (or slightly more) with an Eminence Delta LF 12, a regular Delta 12, a 6' mid and a horn. It sounds great! Definitely deep enough and loud enough to stand very well on its own. Highs and mids are clear and accurate. $480 well spent.
Bill

David Houck · « **Reply #41 on:** January 08, 2005, 08:27:03 AM »

Bill, the high end of the Acme and the Eden are quite different; since you've owned both, how does the high end on the Dr. Bass compare with the Acme and Eden? Is it more like the Acme, more like the Eden, or somewhere in between?

bassman10096 · « **Reply #42 on:** January 08, 2005, 03:12:05 PM »

More like the Acme, since there are both a mid (6) and a horn. I do like the Acme's high end a little better for 2 reasons: Separate mid and tweeter attenuators and a somewhat prettier sounding tweeter. Not a world of difference, but given the chance, I'd give Acme's high, mid package a slight edge. I liked the Eden 210 XST's low end and the mids projected by the 10's. But, in comparison. the Acme and Dr Bass are in a different class for evenness across the highs and mids. The Eden and my Dr Bass 1260 (with the neo 12, the 6 and tweeter) were a good combination, but I decided to go with the additional Dr Bass 212 instead, so I sold the Eden 210 to finance the 212. I also let go of the Acme because I was moving to 12's.

The new Dr Bass 212 has a very nice low end and is very even across the spectrum, with lots of projection. BTW, it does weigh 60 lbs, but has good handles and a good carrying profile (24.25?h x 20.75?w x 15?d).

I'm really interested in hearing from some folks who've played the Schroeders, though. Good sound and light weight are hard to beat.
Bill

dannobasso · « **Reply #43 on:** January 08, 2005, 08:55:34 PM »

I'm going to NAMM in a few weeks and I'm doing research for endorsements. I'm intrigued by the SWR 412 cabs they make for angry bands. Combine that with 18's and I would be most pleased.Since I play hard loud and reasonably fast I need sturdy stuff. I have a buddy at Aguilar but I will need a company that can provide support where ever I happen to be. I have Acme, Epifani, Bag End 18's, Trace Elliot, SWR and even old Dean Markley cabs. I have played through Eden, Peavey, Ampeg, Acoustic, Mesa, and Earth as well(remember quilted vinyl?). Mica had great things to say about Glockenklang (sp?) but they aren't carried by major chains. BTW I love my Epifanis and Acmes. (easier access to the fuses [car bulb] would be helpful on the Acmes. I had to replace one once. Screwgun recommended)
Danno