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gare

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« Reply #15 on: January 26, 2005, 06:00:06 AM »
I had pretty much the same conversation with Jorg.
He suggests that the 1210 is a better 'all around' cabinet, and the 1212 has a little more in the lower mids/lower end, a bit more rounder sound. After talking to Jorg I'd agree with Bob's assessment,4 string/5 string comparison.  
He also said these cabinets are very efficient,require little power,and can be very loud.  

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« Reply #16 on: January 27, 2005, 10:18:33 AM »
gare,
 
Congrats to you on ordering the 1210! I'm anxious to read your review. IMO, everything Jorg told me is true. He is very nice, and I don't think for a second that it's an act.  
 
Personally, I like 10's, but I've never gigged with 12's - 4x12 is enticing, but probably too big/heavy for this geezer. I've only  played a single 12 Aggie in a music store. I was not impressed. In a band situation, I like to be able to push more air, so that's why I chose the 410. (My Ampeg BA115 handles small gigs surprisingly well.) If you don't need to push air like a 410, I'm sure your 1210 will work out great. These cabs are loud and clear.  

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« Reply #17 on: January 27, 2005, 03:33:03 PM »
Thx Dave
I understand the geezer thing, hernia,torn tendon,torn cartilage. My intent is to downside and try to retain some fullness etc. 90 lb cabinets dont seem to appeal to me anymore. I recently picked up a used Mesa Walkabout head, the 2 together would be about 60 lbs total. If needed in the future,a second cabinet isnt out of the question.
And I'd be happy to give my impressions in a few weeks when it shows up.    

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« Reply #18 on: January 28, 2005, 06:52:11 AM »
The Schroeder 410 is 78 lbs.

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« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2005, 01:43:34 PM »
My cabinet was delivered today !
And wouldnt you know it, todays one of the few days I have to work late...
 
More info in a day or so.

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« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2005, 02:05:43 PM »
I can't wait....Tell me now!!!  Don't you feel a bug coming on or something?  I think you need to go home and rest!

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« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2005, 02:48:12 PM »
I am a bit queezey..but I'm the only one here for the next 3 hours...oh the humanity !

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« Reply #22 on: February 04, 2005, 03:57:30 PM »
Guess we both have to tough it out...
 
I believe there's a break-in procedure as well and people seem to be following it, so take care.
 
-Bob

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« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2005, 05:56:40 AM »
Looking forward to your review.

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« Reply #24 on: February 06, 2005, 09:22:49 AM »
Ok..here goes, the 1210 scientific living room test !
My first reaction was amazement. Alot of sound comes out of that little box.
The cabinet is roughly the size of an Aguilar GS112. And it is loud for it's size, don't worry, the porcalain kitties that jumped off the wall are ok ! Ok, now the volume is down.
The frequency response is rated at 40 to 18k, and it does cover the range of a 4 string nicely.  
For comparason I used a Mesa 4x10 w/EV's. I drove this with a Mesa 400+. The Schroeder sounds as full (to my ear) as the 4x10, with better lows and more pronounced mids and highs. There is a pronounced bump in the mids around 200hz from what I can tell. It's not at all unpleasant, but it's there.  
I've never been partial to horns, but the horn in this cabinet is sweet sounding, even cranked up full. Not at all harsh or brittle sounding.          
I moved around the room as I murdered a Bach piece and noticed the sound didn't seem to change off axis at all.  
Overall I found this to be a very articulate cabinet with smooth response thoughout the frequency range, and efficient. It's rated at 102db.
I haven't had a chance to try my Walkbout head thru it yet as it's not at home.
As Dave said, it's a keeper !
My plan now is to get rid of the Mesa cabinets, it's a no brainer, 47 lbs vs about 90. And possibly another 1210 in the future..just to add a little more depth and fullness.    
I recently checked out Epi 210 cabinet, which I really liked, but I'd take the Schroeder over it, not only does it project better, it has a lower price tag.  
Oh one last thing..the smell. When I took it out of the shipping box I noticed sort of a pipe smoke kind of smell, not obnoxious,just unexpected, we narrowed it down to the smell of vanilla. (did you notice that Dave ?)

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« Reply #25 on: February 06, 2005, 10:04:05 AM »
Gare, great review; thanks!  I have this bias that tells me a folded cabinet will sound boomy and not as tight as a cab with regular front facing speakers.  But it sounds like these Schroeders don't have that problem.

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« Reply #26 on: February 06, 2005, 11:34:56 AM »
Thx Dave
Just before I did the babbling review, I sent Jorg an email saying I got the cabinet etc. Before I could finish my babbling he replied. This guys the real thing.
G  

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« Reply #27 on: February 06, 2005, 02:33:07 PM »
Gare,
You said, There is a pronounced bump in the mids around 200hz. What notes are at 200hz? I did notice the vanilla-like smell, but I had to be close to the cab. Maybe my sniffer isn't as good as it used to be.
 
Dave Houck,
On certain stages, I got comments that my Eden 410T was boomy. The Schroeder 410 is much more defined and has more punch than the Eden; I haven't noticed a boomy-ness. But it does get very loud. I have no doubt that it can replace my Eden 210T/410T combo for loud gigs, which was one of my main issues. And it weighs less (78lbs.) than the Eden 410T (90lbs.).

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« Reply #28 on: February 06, 2005, 03:38:08 PM »
Dave-
 
For bass, you're talking about the 12th fret G note on the G string for about 196 Hz.  The A two frets up from that is at 220 Hz, and the F two frets down is about 175 Hz.
 
Of course, we're just talking fundamentals there.  All the lower notes do have overtones that will result in sound in that frequency range as well.  We're not just talking about a few loud notes here.

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« Reply #29 on: February 06, 2005, 03:54:00 PM »
Thanks Dave; I might have to try one of these at some point.  That and the Dr. Bass cabs.