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Jonathan Johnstone (stoney)

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Eden vs SWR (input request)
« on: September 02, 2002, 07:58:40 AM »
I'm scaling down my equipment and am currently looking at the David-Eden Metro DC 210XLT and the SWR Super Redhead.  I've only played through the Eden but have done a lot of research on both. I really like the open 1-rack space provided by the SWR. Have any or you had any experience with either or both of these combos?  Thanks.

Chris G. (76ac070)

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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2002, 08:57:57 AM »
The Super Redhead is just that....SUPER.  I rue the day that I sold mine in the eternal (read insane)quest for that perfect amp.  I currently run 2 D-210XLT cabs with a Mackie
m-2600i and ART Nightbass.  Sounds GREAT - weighs a TON!!!  I would gladly buy another Redhead...if I could FIND one.
Chris

Rami Sourour (rami)

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« Reply #2 on: September 02, 2002, 03:19:39 PM »
I plug ALL my Alembics into my EDEN DC-210XLT & D-410XLT Cab.  I love the sound.  I think it makes the perfect stack or stand alone combo.  Sure they're heavy, but so are my Alembics!
 
Rami

Jonathan Johnstone (stoney)

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« Reply #3 on: September 03, 2002, 04:50:49 AM »
Hi Rami,
The word from Bass Northwest is that the Eden 210XLT has a more agressive sound that the Redhead.  Any comments on that?  You've had both amps, right?  I thought that perhaps the channel switching on the Eden could give me a better slap sound at the click of a switch, however, my Alembics already do that. What do you think?

Rami Sourour (rami)

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« Reply #4 on: September 03, 2002, 09:36:07 AM »
Well, I've tried the Redhead too, but I actually own the EDEN.  It works for me as far as slap tone.  I also play alot of fretless and it covers that flawlessly as well.  I'm partial to its sound after hearing Alain Caron playing through it.  Ultimately the sound your looking for is a personal and subjective thing that only you can decide on.  I personally LOVE the EDEN; its sound, quality (Handmade components), tons of great features and hey...it even looks great!
Try before you buy!
 
Best of luck,
 
Rami

Jonathan Johnstone (stoney)

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« Reply #5 on: September 03, 2002, 10:22:40 AM »
Chris & Rami, thanks for your input. Chirs, sorry pal, I think I misread your input.  Both are helpful.  Anyone else want to chip in???

Michael DeVincenzo (jlpicard)

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« Reply #6 on: September 04, 2002, 07:47:11 AM »
If you can find some of the old series Euphonic Audio cabs, I think you wiil be impressed.They are small and light but they don't sound that way!
They are all three way cabinets with seperate level control and chambers for each speaker.The woofers are housed in a kind of a folded transmision line chamberwhich greatly increaseses the woofers low end efficiency. I currently use a single ten and a double eight with my Eden head and I think that the sound is very balanced overall.Handles my 5 string with no problem. I used to use Eden cabs but I found that that they sound great sitting in my bedroom but on a gig the tone, while big and warm ,didn't seem to cut through the other stage sound very well without turning way up( and yes,I know how to use EQ having studied audio and worked as an engineer for several years).The sound seemed to eminate from the back of the enclosure( not enough presence, not enough in your face kind of a thing)Too scooped in the lower mids for me, no matter what I tried.Great slap tone,mediocre finger tone.May just be my personal preference.Give the EA's A try and let me know what you think.

Paul Lindemans (palembic)

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« Reply #7 on: September 09, 2002, 06:07:09 AM »
Well Jonathan,  I'm living in Europe and the brands you mentioned become nowadays for us nearly unaffordable. So, when I looked around for a bass-system I passed those brands and tested them knowing that there was no way I could buy them. BUT ...the tests I did learned me that EDEN and SWR both have a very nosy sound (take care: I tested the speakers, not the amplifiers). Don't misunderstand me, it's a great sound but I realized that it was NOT neutral. It was a trendy sound, much heard and in a sound-range where a bass can go LOUD! So we discovered that the EDEN is a little bit more extreme in his nosy-ness than SWR. I'm playing Glockenklang (German www.glockenklang.com) right now and I'm happy with it. Well, I know those those things are imported in the US right now (but maybe you have the problem with EU-gear what we have with the US-gear). Glockenklang builds also combo's in different shapes. I own only the speakers (yes with an old SWR SM 400): a Quattro (4x10 + horn) and a Uno (1x15). Okay, I know you want to scale down but the sound I get from these things is extremely clean: it's an unwritten page! It's completely up to you what you make of it together with your bass but most of all your fingers.
Anyway: take a walk on the low side!
Paul

Jonathan Johnstone (stoney)

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« Reply #8 on: September 09, 2002, 07:09:21 AM »
Hey Paul, thanks for the input.Hope all is well in Deuchland!

Paul Lindemans (palembic)

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« Reply #9 on: September 10, 2002, 01:39:32 AM »
Well Jonathan, I'm a Belgian dude (No...I'm not goin' to tell you guys where that lies. Learn some EU-geography) and living near Leuven.  
CU and be Alembicious!
Everything is going well thanx!
Paul

Jonathan Johnstone (stoney)

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« Reply #10 on: September 10, 2002, 04:45:13 AM »
OOPs!!! Must have misread your email.  I better bone up on my EU-geog as I'll be visiting Amsterdam next month.  

Paul Lindemans (palembic)

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« Reply #11 on: September 10, 2002, 10:26:03 AM »
Well Jonathan, if you have time to spare, hop over it's not that far away, a 200km I guess.
Paul on the Profile you'll finf my mailaddres and mobile.
Paul

Jonathan Johnstone (stoney)

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« Reply #12 on: September 10, 2002, 10:42:12 AM »
I'd like that. Never been to Belgium but my wife has and she loves it.  Unfortunately I'll be working from the time my feet hit the ground. Can't even spend an extra day because I've got gigs as soon as I return.

Ken W. Smith (dreambass)

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« Reply #13 on: September 11, 2002, 06:43:35 AM »
I'd like to add my Euphonic Audio endorsement to that of Michael DiV's(9/4/02)....the early EA cabinets are incredible!  I use from 1 to 4 cabs depending on the gig and sound system situation, 2-VL110's and 2-VL208's....usually one of each just like Mike!  Power sections vary but they always sound incredible....I've left numerous sound engineers slack jawed after hearing their power and rich tone.  All were found used but mint and 4 cost me less than 2 standard 2X10 cabs or a really good 4X10.  They're getting hard to find but it's worth the effort.  

Jonathan Johnstone (stoney)

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« Reply #14 on: September 11, 2002, 07:16:41 AM »
I noticed that Euphonic has a web site up.  Are they still in business and, are the cabs. you're referring to the ones that are currently made or perhaps a better vintage model that they don't make anymore?