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4u2nv

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« on: May 22, 2005, 01:49:39 AM »
Dumb question: in a 4 string upright bass, what's the highest note it can be played ?
 
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2005, 06:34:24 AM »
Joe, that's not dumb at all.  On mine, the note at the very end of the fingerboard on the G-string is the D that is 3 octaves above the open D-string.
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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2005, 09:16:57 AM »
Only the 19th 'fret'? I didn't realize the fingerboard was that short, but guess I never really thought about it.

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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2005, 10:49:30 AM »
It's 3 octave above the open D.  19th fret is 2 octaves.  My fingerboard is 34 on a 41 1/4 scale.
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« Reply #4 on: May 22, 2005, 01:19:29 PM »
Thanks Rich, so there's other options?, like kind 24 frets, 3 octave from an open G ?
 
 Does anybody know what's the highest note on the alembic clasico ?

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« Reply #5 on: May 22, 2005, 02:08:30 PM »
So Rich, that would be the 31st fret.
 
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2005, 02:43:05 PM »
I've seen / heard guys playing notes in the space between the end of the fingerboard and the bridge.
 
Recalling Xeno's paradox, this implies that the instrument is capable of infinitely high notes.

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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2005, 05:45:14 PM »
Well my memory failed again, so I looked it up.

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« Reply #8 on: May 22, 2005, 07:08:04 PM »
Joe,
I did a very rough estimate on the classico based on measuring the picture on the Alembic website.  It appears to have about the same fingerboard length/scale length ratio as my upright, about 80-82%.  So, I guess the classico has about the same 31 fret length.
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« Reply #9 on: May 22, 2005, 09:23:35 PM »
My mistake. D that is 3 octaves above the open D-string, played on the G string, would indeed be the 31st fret. I stand (or sit, as Nigel would recommend) corrected.
 
Somehow I lost an octave. And I concur that a two octave (24 fret) board should be roughly 75 percent of the scale length, so the rest of the numbers here make sense.
 
Cool, that's a huge range. Though it gets pretty sensitive up there... on a good day, if I've been playing a lot, I can do alright up to the 17-19 range, but much beyond that you really have to be dialed in (at least on a 35 - it would be a little more forgiving on a 41).
 
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« Reply #10 on: May 22, 2005, 11:35:36 PM »
Is it practicall to have that range ?, or why 31 frets ?, is there an acoustic bass player that play in that range ?

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« Reply #11 on: May 23, 2005, 05:39:24 AM »
Stanley Clarke uses the entire fingerboard; and he's pretty good at it too .  And I've seen others play up their too.  Practical is relative.  Some electric bass players wonder if it's practical to play above the 12th fret; for me, it would be impractical not to use all 24.

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« Reply #12 on: May 23, 2005, 06:09:43 AM »
OK
 
Heres another question on uprights. I am left handed. I know you can get left handed double basses but i cant find one in the uk for cheap. Is there any inherent reason why i cant play a right handed double bass from the other side of the neck. I know i cant change the strings around but can i just play it backwards. I realise this would make things more difficult but is there any serious reason why it is impossible or a really bad idea.
 
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2005, 09:26:57 AM »
Well i can't  help you deciding , but as inspiration, John Ptitucci, and Jimmy Haslip are both left handed.

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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2005, 10:10:33 AM »
Is there any reason you can't reverse the strings on a double bass?  It might require some work on the nut and the bridge, but I thought the body was symmetric.