Author Topic: Strats (Read 462 times)

jalevinemd · « **on:** August 04, 2005, 08:43:55 PM »

I never cared much for Strats...though I own two of them...was never wild about the way they looked or the way they sounded. I've always been more of a humbucker kind of guy. And that wanna-be 22nd fret...Oy! But then I was watching David Gilmour playing Comfortably Numb on the Live 8 video and I fell in love with them for the very first time. I haven't played any other guitar for the past week or so...not even my Alembics. I guess the classics never go out of style.

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matthew90046 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 05, 2005, 12:48:04 AM »

It was great to see Roger Waters back in the fold.

jacko · « **Reply #2 on:** August 05, 2005, 01:54:31 AM »

Sadly, they've quashed rumours that they are reforming. Gilmour has said that Live 8 was a one off.

Graeme

trekster · « **Reply #3 on:** August 05, 2005, 05:30:01 AM »

Yeah, that is a shame -- espeically since it's Gilmour putting the kabosh on anything like that instead of Roger, who always seemed to be the bitter one. He looked like he was having the time of his life out there.

--T

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #4 on:** August 05, 2005, 05:58:08 AM »

I heard they were offered something like 115 million dollars to do a US tour, but that Gilmour turned it down because he did not want to profiteer from Live 8's charitable ambitions. I say they should have just done it for free for the fans : )

the_mule · « **Reply #5 on:** August 05, 2005, 06:13:40 AM »

It's too bad, because I'd have loved the chance to see them live, but it's the best way to prevent the legend from deteriorating...

Wilfred

kmh364 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 05, 2005, 07:41:39 AM »

I was originally a Les Paul man and didn't have much use for Strats. Then, in the eighties, I couldn't afford a new Paul, but I could afford a new Strat (and I cowtowed to the then-current Strat trend), so I bought one. I still love 'em. Some of my fave players play (or have played)'em.

One of those fave players is David Gilmour. He's not the most accomplished or technical of players, but his tone and phrasing are incredible, and instantly recognizable as his own. Hell, I even bought that horrendous Give My Regards To Broadstreet soundtrack (to an equally horrendous movie, LOL!) because I instantly recognized Gilmour's playing on Sir Paul's No More Lonely Nights.

I, for one, would love to see the old Floyd reunited, if for nothing other than just for the fans's sake.

As an aside, try gilmourish.com for all things DG...it's a private site by a Swede obsessed with DG's playing, equipment, trivia, minutiae, etc.

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the_mule · « **Reply #7 on:** August 05, 2005, 07:57:36 AM »

Other interesting Gilmour trivia: he owns Fender Stratocaster #001 and on Paul McCartney's 'Run Devil Run' album (highly recommended for its incredible garage band rawness) he played fabulous rock & roll guitar like there is no tomorrow!

Wilfred

lidon2001 · « **Reply #8 on:** August 05, 2005, 08:38:33 AM »

Hey Jonathan, Strats to Pink Floyd reunion in how many posts? Talk about a hijack. Besides, Mr. Waters looked very out of place IMHO. And the look on his face said to me that being on stage again was causing him to regret the minute he walked away.

Anyway, I love Strats. I have a '90 Strat Plus and it has only one dead note on the neck. lol I see the problem being with most Fenders, you have to find a good one, and that can be a task. I bought mine used from a guitarist who worked at a music store. He was able to search their stock and wait for the right one. Then you have to have it setup properly, which takes a very good setup guy/gal with the standard trem device. Once accomplished, I am always amazed that I can go to albums of artists that use these instruments and get their sound for the most part. Blackmore, Gilmour, Vaughn, Knopfler; all of the sounds are right there for you. I just think it's a very wide sound palette. I too have a LP, and I am placing my Skylark order today (long or medium scale, I still can't decide....). If I had to keep one, hands down Strat. It's too versatile, not to mention mine plays like butter and I love the looks.

Of course, it isn't a Little Bear, the Queen...

Yes, I'm a bass player, and I only have one bass, a Fender...
Until my current order arrives in the next few weeks...

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alembic76407 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 05, 2005, 09:50:27 AM »

you guys may want to kill me for saying this , BUT I think Guy Pratt is a far better bass player than Roger Waters, And I would love to see Pink Floyd tour with Guy Playing bass again !!!

David T (TLO)

PS: I got to see Pink Floyd in 94, they were great

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #10 on:** August 05, 2005, 10:01:29 AM »

Guy is exceptionally better bass player than Roger, without question IMHO. I got to see Roger on tour a few years ago doing mostly Floyd stuff. It was an excellent show, but even three guitarists could not capture that sense of space and character that gilmour's tone has. Closest to PF I will ever get (I would still be happy just to see new floyd).

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kmh364 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 05, 2005, 10:18:02 AM »

No doubt Guy is a stellar player, much more so than Roger Waters, but no one can capture that psycho voice on those Bellvue tunes like Roger, LOL! Roger's Floyd tunes only sound right when Roger sings 'em, IMHO.

True also about the Waters solo band...Messrs. White, Bramhall II, and Fairweather-Low...all good guitarists, but I'd trade 'em all for one David Gilmour. Conversely, the David Gilmour tunes they do just don't sound right without DG (no disrespect intended to Jon Carin, who does a fine job on steel, guitar and vocals...amongst his keyboard duties).

the_mule · « **Reply #12 on:** August 05, 2005, 10:27:33 AM »

Important difference (all IMHO of course!): Waters without Floyd lives, breathes, suffers and celebrates the songs while Floyd without Waters perform the songs. There's thousands of better bass players on the planet, but Waters is still one of my favourites because of the sheer passion he puts into those songs. You can see for yourself: the 'In The Flesh' DVD is in one word AMAZING...

Wilfred

keith_h · « **Reply #13 on:** August 05, 2005, 10:28:53 AM »

Ah Floyd. The only concert I ever saw that was actually close to Hi-Fi. Managed to get close to the center point of the sound system and it was amazing. They started off with some of the old standards (from my perspective) such as Set The Controls For The Heart Of The Sun, Watch Out With That Axe Eugene,etc. This was followed buy all of Dark Side of The Moon and Wish You Were Here with Echos as the encore.

And to bring this back on topic DG was playing a Strat.

Keith

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #14 on:** August 05, 2005, 12:02:27 PM »

Actually Wilfred I think Sid Barrett lived and breathed most of the music of Pink Floyd (at least he inspired or wrote almost all of the lyrics). Not to say that Roger wasn't a damn fine front man for the group, but I think most people are unaware exactly how much of Roger's stuff was left on the cutting room floor after producers and gilmour picked out the gems. I think Roger truly is passionate for his lyrics, but frankly I can only think of one or two passable solo Waters songs, where as I can name several decent new floyd songs (none as good as old floyd of course). The simple fact is the they were more than the sum of their parts (most of the time).

And to bring this around, never really liked strats, only had cheap ones.