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bracheen

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #75 on: December 02, 2005, 04:46:47 AM »
Correction, maybe Ginger didn't play with Alexis Korner, Charlie Watts did.

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #76 on: December 02, 2005, 05:06:53 AM »
My mistake ...I am jumping to conclusions!!!
 
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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #77 on: December 02, 2005, 05:39:04 AM »
27 years ago yesterday (12-01-78) I Bought my first Porsche, a 914, I picked it up in the afternoon and that night I went to Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band, WOW days like that don't happen everyday, Gary W Tallant is one of my Major influence's on bass, the first 3 E Street albums are the best

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #78 on: December 02, 2005, 05:41:09 AM »
I believe Greg Lake was the bass player in King Crimson for their first two albums, then John Whetton, Boz Burrell, Tony Levin, and Trey Gunn.
(why do I remember this stuff?)
 
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David Houck

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #79 on: December 02, 2005, 06:38:04 AM »
Interestingly, according to the bio at Allmusic.com, Robert Fripp taught Boz Burrell how to play bass for the gig with Crimson.  Before that he was a singer.
 
Ginger Baker replaced Charlie Watts in Blues Incorporated.

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #80 on: December 02, 2005, 08:51:56 AM »
Thanks Dave, I confused myself on that one.
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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #81 on: December 02, 2005, 09:04:56 AM »
I wasn't sure either and had to look it up!

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #82 on: December 02, 2005, 09:16:09 PM »
Me?
 
Geddy Lee - I spent the better part of my teenage years playing a Rickenbacker 4001 and learning all of his stuff note for note.
 
John Alec Entwistle - His playing has had a profound influence on my own playing (and bass of choice - Alembic, of course).
 
Chris Squire - A monster player, and the reason I still own a Rick.
 
Jaco - 'nuff said.
 
Stanley - 'nuff said X 2.
 
Sir Paul McCartney - The original melodic bass player, IMHO.
 
Sting - every thing that guy plays is just so ... perfect for the song.  I love playing Walking On The Moon for that very reason.
 
Greg Lake - Anyone who can keep up with Keith Emerson and Carl Palmer is OK in my book.
 
Les Claypool - Jesus, he's good.
 
Gene Simmons - not great technically, but he was the first guy I tried to copy.  It wasn't hard!
 
John Paul Jones - Anyone who can put down lines like that and play keyboards is incredibly talented, not to mention his producing abilities.
 
Tom Fowler - his stuff with Zappa was amazing.
 
Arthur Barrow - ditto.
 
Patrick O'Hearn - ditto X 2.
 
Flea - I love his slapping and popping.
 
Stu Hamm, Victor Wooten, and Roscoe Beck - Man, I wish I could play like any one of them.
 
Alan

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #83 on: December 02, 2005, 11:19:12 PM »
I'm a bit different at this.
 
I went through my younger years idealizing certain players, and as I'm 50, most of them fall into the Jamerson/McCartney/Kaye, etc., end of things.
 
However as I dodder off into middle age, I find that it's really impossible to 'solo' the players out from the bands they were in and the songs that made such an impression on me.
 
So my influences now actually run out this way:
 
I grew up in the heyday of AM radio, so there's a big part of me that loved all the 'West Coast' singles:  Beach Boys, Carpenters, Monkees, Grass Roots, especially Glen Campbell's Jimmy Webb records.  This was the classic LA 'A Team' folks like Carol Kaye, Hal Blaine, Howard Roberts, Tedesco, Glen Campbell, Larry Knechtel, all of those guys who were mostly serious jazzers knocking off these 'little pop records' 4 a day to make house payments so they could play REAL music at night.  Brian Wilson's harmonies and charts, the string charts behind 'Wichita Lineman', just breathtaking.  They cut so many TV scores, listen to Hal Blaine drive the theme to 'Hawaii 5-0', one of my favorite TV themes.  To this day, I'm crazy for Floyd Sneed's drumming with Three Dog Night. This taught me to respect playing precise charts that were well written, the antithesis of 'never playing it the same way twice'.
 
Motown and Jamerson and Jerry Scheff were huge to me, but divorce their lines from all of those fabulous tunes and what have you got?  The Funk Brothers are surely the most overlooked bunch of session cats that ever drew breath that truly changed the world.  Motown really was The Sound of Young America, and did more to end segregation than anything else at that time:  How could you love Marvin or the Temps or Stevie and hate the black kids at school?  It was the precursor of funk and one step back from soul music only because it was from Michigan, not Mississippi.
 
Since I lived in the South, the 'other' Motown (Memphis) really was the home of soul, blues, and Gospel.  All of the Chicago guys stopped in Memphis on the way from the Delta, and lots of 'em stayed.  I really cut my teeth on Al Green, Ike Hayes, the BarKays, Booker T + the MGs, Rufus and Carla Thomas, etc. This also spread out to the Delta Blues (R Johnson, Muddy, the Wolf) across (early) Elvis and on to Black and White Quartet gospel.  Pre-Movie Elvis is just too cool for school. This was really my roots.  A little branch of this grew to Southern Rock, the Allmans, Wet Wille, Skynyrd, and so forth.
 
Then the damn British came along.  There's nobody my age that, like me, saw the Beatles on Ed Sullivan and didn't say, Geez I wann be like that!!  Which brought the Stones, the Animals, the Who, Traffic, the Hollies, which over time led through Zeppelin and Pink Floyd and Cream.
I loved the Dave Clark Five, and 'Ferry 'Cross the Mersey' and Dusty Springfield still really get to me.  The British landmarks for me were Sgt Pepper's, Exile on Main Street, Who's Next, Dark Side of the Moon, The Low Spark of High Heeled Boys.  I wore out Mad Dogs and Englishmen. Delaney and Bonnie.  Gasoline Alley-era Rod Stewart and the Faces. Dave Mason's Alone Together still haunts me, and when I hear Mr Fantasy I'm right back there.
 
After I got married, my wife and in-laws thouroughly educated me to country, bluegrass, and Southern Gospel, music from poor white people, in a way the same feelings translated to music in a different culture as the black music from Memphis, maybe it was segregation . . .  
And of course I had to learn Texas Swing playing beer joints in Texas, as well as a little cajun and a little TexMex.  Sometimes there just isn't anything that's more fun than Asllep at the Wheel.
 
These are the things that shaped me.  I can say in very few cases did I ever learn a certain bass part from any of this note for note.  But I absorbed a lot of the styles deeply, and I hope it shows in the right places.
 
The hardest thing was to learn what to leave out . . . not how much to put in.
 
J o e y

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #84 on: December 03, 2005, 06:56:11 AM »
Joey: Very nice!
 
As one born at the tail of the Baby Boom, I grew up int the 60's and early '70's in a house that played a lot of country and AM radio, so I was immersed in all those influences you mention. I was also a TV Baby back when we only had what, FIVE channels, LOL! I was exposed to all the studio greats because of that as well, I just didn't know their names at the time.  
 
Your writings brought back a lot of great memories...growing up in that time period exposed me to all sorts of seminal forms of music, a love of which I carry to this day.
 
I wish I could say the same about today's music, practically NONE of which speaks to me in any meaningful way, unfortunately.
 
It SUCKS to get old, LOL!
 
Cheers,
 
Kevin

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #85 on: December 03, 2005, 09:32:44 AM »
You know Kevin, I heard David Crosby talk about the Summer Of Love and being our age, and he opined that he came along at that magical moment in time ...after the pill and before AIDS. . ., and I must admit I knew EXACTLY what he meant!
 
I think you could apply the same logic that we came  ...after the PBass and before sampling,,!!
 
I think that just about covers it!
 
J o e y

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #86 on: December 03, 2005, 09:51:56 AM »
I hear ya!  
 
BTW, it's hard to imagine that Crosby, like most of my hereos, are all from my parent's generation! For as much as I love 'em, my parents (Baby Boomers themselves, having been born at the leading edge of same), and most of their contemporaries, just weren't cool like that, LOL! I guess music (and drugs) was the defining difference, LOL!
 
(Message edited by kmh364 on December 03, 2005)

gare

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Re: Bass Player Influences
« Reply #87 on: December 05, 2005, 03:23:53 PM »
Geez..after reading Joey and Kevins soliloquies I feel like 'doin a few hits' and firing up the turntable (you remember those). Maybe get around to playin Whiter Shade of Pale a few dozen times !  
 
'it's hard to imagine that Crosby, like most of my hereos, are all from my parent's generation! '
 
I just did a very quick search but couldnt find it..how old is he ? I always thought of him in my/our generation...
 
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