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« Reply #30 on: January 18, 2006, 07:23:06 PM »
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Maybe that's the deal:  I approach things with a normal hand-position playing style.  I doubt even Stanley with those hands could reach around Mr. Baudin's axe in a regular fashion.  And I don't tap (or make charts for my GameBoy tunes) so I guess it would just rule me out, but he's one hell of a player and my hat's off to him, big time.
 
HOWEVER . . . a six with F#BEADG, hmmmm . . . .
you'd think the low F#'s would be illegal in California, inadvertantly setting off the seisomgraphs!  I love my low Cs and Ds, I bet low G would be BiG FuN! What guage would you use for low F# ?
 
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« Reply #31 on: January 18, 2006, 07:27:40 PM »
And another thing . . . He's obviously spent buckets of money on these things, at least from what I see on that web page.  
 
WHY doesn't he have an ALEMBIC besides the Epic 6?  But then, I'd have serious fears for my safety regarding me marching into Susan's office and asking her to inlay HIDEOUS CLAW into my new axe!!!
 
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« Reply #32 on: January 19, 2006, 06:13:25 AM »
When you watch the video, it seems to me that if you master his two hand tapping technique, then a fretboard that wide isn't all that difficult to play.  And as for usefulness, if you can play the type of stuff that he's playing in the video, and if you live in an area with lots of restaurants, you can probably be working five nights a week doing solos and duets.

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« Reply #33 on: January 19, 2006, 08:36:20 AM »
Joey,
 
Most folks who use a low F# string it with a .150 string...
 
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« Reply #34 on: January 19, 2006, 10:37:57 AM »
Where do you buy a .150 string?

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« Reply #35 on: January 19, 2006, 01:29:58 PM »
Conklin sells them, and even sells a low C#!!
http://www.conklinguitars.com/accessories.html
 
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« Reply #36 on: January 19, 2006, 05:03:54 PM »
if i understand correctly, the hideous claw was a gift from a nuclear rabbit fan.
 
Jean also has a 12 string, fan fret JP bass on the way.

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« Reply #37 on: January 19, 2006, 07:26:59 PM »
Anybody else notice a 500 pound gorilla around here?
 
Me either.

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« Reply #38 on: January 21, 2006, 01:03:53 AM »
Where's Harpo when we need him?

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« Reply #39 on: January 21, 2006, 09:38:49 AM »
I'll tell you guys a little secret. I've come to the conclusion after research and experimenting -call me a revolutionary or a crackpot if you will, but here it is- that the ultimate and most logical tuning for the electric bass is to tune it in major 3rds. If I ever got another custom bass, it would be ANOTHER 8-string tuned in major 3rds from a low G# (a minor 3rd below the normal low B) to a high C (the normal high C).
 
Rangewise, it would be like a 6-string with 3 extra notes, but these notes ARE significant.
 
Tuning the bass in 3rds in awesome, and has tremendous advantages. The scale and arpeggio pattern are simplified from 5 string sequences to merely 3 string sequences. So if one played a 3 string bass (G# C E) and then acquired a 6-string bass (G# C E G# C E) there would be no learning issue at all! And notes are segregated so every fret has just 3 notes, so 4 frets covers all the notes -the entire CHROMATIC range- and shifting becomes unnecessary. If you ever experiment with this, you'll quickly find that all your scales and arpeggios... EVERYTHING just becomes INCREDIBLY easy and intuitive -and the more one understands the math/language of music, the more this is so.
 
If you alternate your 1 and 3 or 2 and 4 fingers while switching up or down in strings, for example, you'll be playing straight whole steps, in other words, whole tone scales. But you can virtually play ANY scale that you can conceive (with respects to 1/2 and whole steps) instantly because this tuning results in the ultimate intuitive layout.
 
I almost had my 8-string built this way, but the desire for the extended range and the traditional/conventional tuning swayed me. I've thought about having it converted, but I'd have to scrap the fingerboard and have a new one with position markers every 4 frets (and new L.E.D.s to match) which would cost a bundle, plus I've gotton used to this bass for what it IS, and wouldn't want to lose that. But as a separate instrument, an 8-string such as I've described would be awesome. Another cool thing about it is that you basically just tighten your low B a 1/2 step to make it the low C, and this extra tightness adds significant focus and clarity -especially if one also has a 35 inch scale with ebony laminates. Also, the low B is already near the limits of functionality, and each note lower you go with anything beyond that REALLY increases various issues; a low G# is MUCH easier to pull off than a low F# -it'll sound much better in whatever scale length, and it'll work with a scale length that wouldn't cut it for the low F# string.

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« Reply #40 on: January 21, 2006, 10:36:05 AM »
Mark,
 
I've actually tried that!  Years ago, mind you, and I quit because I was doing a fair amount of sight reading at the time and it was a total mindf***.  I had completely forgotten about it.  It would be significantly more practical to do in the modern world with the prevalence of 6,7 and 8 string basses.  I may have to try this again at some point and if I can get my hands on another bass for testing purposes (I'm giving the Lakland to my 12-year old daughter - it would be bad form to do this to it first).  My inspiration came from playing a Chapman Stick, which seemed to me to require more shifting of positions to play phrases, rather than less, and from a Guitar Player article on Eastern 17-, 19- and 21-tone scales which piqued my interest in unconventional approaches.  I seem to have an affinity for the useless, but such is life...
 
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« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2006, 10:24:48 PM »
That's what came to mind also, 88. I just got thru  turning The Touch on cd. That's the only way I could play it. I got 5 on a 4 neck! But it is a beauty! It's got a nice finish and a horn on it like my Rogue. How many octaves?