Question for Gallien Krueger owners

[richbass939]

I just got a GK 700 115 combo and would like to add a 10 cab sometime.  I like the low end of the 15 but I love the 10 punch.  My question is whether I need a 410 or 210 cab.  I would prefer a 210 (my back turned 51 this year) if I can get away with it.  I never play a room that the combo and a 210 wouldn't handle.  Volume-wise, I think the 115 is probably enough.  
Do any of you have this set up and find that the sound/volume is fine with a 210 or does the 210 leave something lacking?  I really don't want a 410 but I don't want to come up short, either.  I would rather spend gear money on another Alembic than load up on cabs that I don't need.
Thanks.
Rich
Edit:  I guess this answers my question about whether or not member status switches to Beast or Anti-Christ on post 666 and back to Senior on 667.  I see now that it doesn't.
 
(Message edited by richbass939 on July 14, 2006)

[811952]

Rich,
 
I have a Peavey 210 cabinet that leaves nothing lacking.  It's just not able to produce the SPLs of my 410 cabinets, and being rear-ported (unlike my 410s) needs some space behind it to make the low-end happen.  I use it a lot on quieter jazz gigs or when I don't want to carry a 410 around.
 
John

[tbrannon]

Rich,
I play through a homebrew 115 with a 210 top-  It's all I'll ever need.  The 15 thumps and the 10's round out the sound with a fair bit of punch.  I built the 115 and contemplated building a 4x10, but I simply didn't want a 6' stack sitting in the corner of my office.  I went with the 210 and haven't been disappointed at all.
 
I have played with just the 210 on several occasions and have never been disappointed in what I heard.

[keith_h]

I use 210's for multiple setups and find them an ideal cabinet. I will use one or two 15 cabinets with one or two 210 cabinets or one or two 18 ELF cabinets with a 210. My suggestion is go with the 210. If you feel you need more later get another one. For me it is easier to move two 210 cabinets than one 410.  
 
Keith

[crazykiwi]

I'm really surprised that you're not finding there's enough punch in the 1x15 combo.  
 
I've tried the 1x15 RB400 combo at a gig recently and was blown away by it so much so that I'm seriously considering replacing my Eden WT800 set up with two RB700 combos.
 
The combo I tried also had an Eminence 15 speaker in it however. Have you considered upgrading your speaker cone?

[tbrannon]

Rich,
The other option is to try a 2x12-  
 
I built a 2x12 loaded with Eminence 12's and love it. I guess 12's are a compromise between a 15 and multiple 10's, but I'm quite happy with the sounds I get from my 2x12 and it's a fair bit more manageable than a 4x10.  All of the cabs I've built are listed in this thread (115, 212, 210).  I'm not a pro- I play at home, in church and at outdoor church concerts and with a combination of the 3 cabs I listed above, I've honestly never felt as though I didn't have enough to get the job done (not including my playing ability, of course!).
 
I should have thought of that when posting the first time, but I'm often a bit slow on the uptake and the output end. =)
 
If I had to choose a single cab to play with from here on out, it would probably be the 2x12.....
Toby

[crazykiwi]

the other thought I've just had is maybe you could try a replacement neo cone.  Slightly more midrange is available.

[bracheen]

Toby
Thanks for mentioning the 2x12.  While reading this thread I was wondering about that.  I have a 2x10 Hartke XL and a 1x15 Ashdown.  The 2x10 is not quite satisfying.  I thought it sounded good until I added the Ashdown.  Now it's sounds a little anemic.
 
Sam

[tbrannon]

Sam
 
I really do like the sound of my 2x12.  They often get overlooked by a combination of 1x15+ multiple 10's, but I've been quite happy with the sound (playing 4 or 5 strings).  
 
There is a rash of new 2x12 cabs out there- I think GK has a neo set up that is fairly lightweight and manageable.  If I were you, I'd make a run to your local shop and have a go at them- I'm predicting that you'll like what you hear.
 
Toby

[richbass939]

Thanks everybody for the responses. Everything is so 10 focused these days I didn't even think of 12s.  I have a GK Backline 100 watt 112 that sounds great.  The 15 that's in the 700 combo has a great low end.  I'm pretty sure I want to add a cab so I'm not pushing the 15 too much.  (I didn't mention that I play a 5 string a lot.)  I also don't want to get a huge cab (4 speakers) if I don't have to.  It appears that a 210 would be plenty when added to the 115.  About replacing the 115 speaker in the combo, I haven't really thought about doing that.
Toby, I agree that a run to the local shop is in order.  300 miles round trip (yep, I'm in the boonies)... I'll get to it one of these days.
Rich

[tbrannon]

Rich,
Good on ya for livin' in the boonies.  If everybody lived in the sticks, the world would be a much better place. Outside of Auckland, NZ is pretty sparsly populated, which is exactly why I chose to NOT live in Auckland.  =)
 
I just went to a shop at lunch and played a GK backline 4x10.  Not bad sounding at all....I could hardly tell the difference between it and the SWR 4x10 that cost 3x's as much.
 
(Message edited by tbrannon on July 18, 2006)

[crazykiwi]

Hey, I'm going to be back in NZ for Christmas   Just booked the tickets last week.

[georgie_boy]

Hi Guys
I use a Fender M80 bass amp (Now vintage 1982) and it's great.
no 4x10,  no 1x18  no sf2  no f2b-etc., and you know what---------with the addition of a   1 x 12 Aguilar cab, this, with my series 1 kicks   REAL ass
The fender pre amp is just ACE. I can see the 1x15 Fender speaker moving big time, but------the Aguilar doesn't seem to budge------for a 1x12
I'm happy with it at the moment
For smaler venues, I love that set-up. Am I living in the past (to quote JETHRO TULL), but it will blast 200 people no probs.  
 
G

[olieoliver]

George, if it makes you happy that's what matters. With a 1x15 and 1x12 I would imagine that you have a real strong mid-range and bottom end. I ran a 2x15 Peavy cab for years. Talk about work horse.

[tbrannon]

Steve,
Good on ya!  Hopefully the weather will tune up for you a bit.  It's pretty wet, cold and dark here right now =)