Author Topic: The Final Cut (Read 206 times)

glocke · « **on:** August 28, 2006, 05:36:29 AM »

Just rediscovered this album in a rateh imteresting way.

Got home from work early friday, indulged in some of my favorite herbal substance, than lay down to take a nap. The dream I had itself is unimportant, but what was weird is that the soundtrack to the dream was Pink Floyd, The Final Cut..whatmakes it even stranger is that it has been years since Ive thought of pink floyd (well, ok, other than seeing austrailian pink floyd last year)..

Ive been listenting to this album alot since friday...great stuff, one of my favorites fromt he band. It is probably even more relevant today given everything going on in the world than when it was released.

811952 · « **Reply #1 on:** August 28, 2006, 05:48:33 AM »

As the windshield melts, and my tears evaporate...

I rediscovered it last Spring and yes, it is a wonderful album!

John

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #2 on:** August 28, 2006, 06:33:17 AM »

Tell me true, tell me why, was Jesus crucified
Is it for this that Daddy died?
Was it for you? Was it me?
Did I watch too much T.V.?
Is that a hint of accusation in your eyes?

I like the album, but it always had a bit too much Roger influence for my personal tastes. I always thought it seemed like a Roger Waters solo album, with Pink Floyd as a backing band. Well, as I've said before, there's no accounting for bad taste (especially mine!).

bsee · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2006, 06:45:11 AM »

The Australians have a taped concert that has been on PBS a lot lately. Apparently there are some upcoming US tour dates.

glocke · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2006, 07:00:18 AM »

it is for sure heavily waters influenced....
personally, i dont have a problem with that...

id love for the aussies to do this album.

FC Bass · « **Reply #5 on:** August 28, 2006, 07:53:43 AM »

I've got a very lazy friend. Sometimes when he visits me, he falls asleep on the couch. If that happens, I sneak to the stereo, get The Final Cut and play the jet at max volume.
He hates it! I love that album.

hb3 · « **Reply #6 on:** August 28, 2006, 04:11:31 PM »

I listened to this recently and it didn't hold up for me...lyrically, it seems a big come down from previous work, with the eighties new-agey pop psychology Waters was brandishing at the time...it's ok. Two Suns in the Sunset still sounds pretty good.

adriaan · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2006, 01:56:58 AM »

His 1989 mignon opus ?a ira - an opera about the French Revolution - had its stage premiere yesterday. The music was qualified by one of the orchestra members as too sweet, and not innovative (in this morning's newspaper). Paris wouldn't have it, London turned him down - so it was premiered in Poznan, Poland.

Reporter's comment: music much like The Wall, but no rebelliousness.

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #8 on:** August 29, 2006, 06:55:53 AM »

It always seemed to me that by the time that Roger wrote that album he had pretty much run war and madness into the ground as song topics. I also think that Richard Wright's contributions to the Pink Floyd sound are pretty important, and that his absence is quite apparent in the atmosphere of the music. Regardless, I have never been much of a Waters solo fan either, which often pits me against many of my friends who also really like Floyd. I doubt anyone would disagree that their best contributions were when the various elements of the band were balanced. Now if they could just put their differences behind them, and go on tour . . . ah well, not likely.

hb3 · « **Reply #9 on:** August 29, 2006, 09:00:39 AM »

I read an interview w/ Waters recently where he was shockingly amenable to touring -- this was just after the Live Aid or whatever it was concert. He didn't sound bitter at all, and recognized and acknowledged the special chemistry between him and Gilmore.

smokin_dave · « **Reply #10 on:** August 29, 2006, 10:51:40 AM »

I have that album.Love it but it's so depressing you feel like jumping off a cliff after a listen.My favorite Waters album is The Pro's and Con's of Hitchhiking.Clapton's playing on it is brilliant.

kmh364 · « **Reply #11 on:** August 29, 2006, 10:54:50 AM »

It would be great to see them all reunited under the PF banner once again, but alas, Gilmour wants nothing to do with it (even for $0.5Bil USD). To add insult to injury they're all out touring this year. Unfortunately, Gilmour/Wright toured earlier this year and only played a dozen and a half shows, while Waters/Mason are doing the DSOTM thang currently (I have RW tickets for Sept. in NJ).

I've warmed-up to the Final Cut (as opposed to when I first bought it), but it really is nothing more than a glorified RW solo effort with the remainder of PF in a guesting role. I'll second that, by then, the WWII/Decline Of the British Empire/Madness card had been played once too often for my taste (and much to the chagrin of Messr. Gilmour, apparently). Still, bad PF is better than no PF (bad as in good, but not when compared to other Floyd masterpieces).

811952 · « **Reply #12 on:** August 29, 2006, 11:04:38 AM »

I listened to a CD-release program for Gilmour's latest CD, and David made it rather clear that he and Roger were of a different and incompatible mindset. Roger wanted to do his we don't need no education thing and David wouldn't allow it because it would have sent the exact wrong message in the context of the charity concert they were doing. Things were apparently somewhat contentious, with Roger doing this more for the marketing potential than anything else. Not unlike Bill Bruford touring with YES in '92 to raise cash for his ailing mom, while publicly denouncing the tour as nothing more than a money-grubbing sham on the parts of the other musicians and management.. I guess money/publicity trumps art most of the time...

The imagery of In the corner of some foreign field the gunner sleeps tonight. What's done is done... is haunting to me. While I'm not a big Roger Waters fan and feel that The Final Cut is certainly far more of a solo album than a Floyd album, for me it stands on it's own and is a good work. I have to listen to the entire thing at a sitting though, because it's more of a narrative than a collection of songs...

John