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lbpesq

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« on: December 23, 2009, 08:43:48 AM »
Well the guitar one finally has to turn to all you bass players for some advice.  I just picked up an Epic fretless 5.  It showed up on my doorstep in not the best of condition.  Filthy, major tarnish, bubbling on tuning machines, missing cavity plate screws, wrong pickup screws, and, literally, no strings attached.  Once I clean it up I'll need to restring it.  So what do I use?  This is an experiment for me - I don't need the best and I especially don't want the most expensive (you guys pay a LOT for your strings, don't you?) Suggestions appreciated.
 
Bill, tgo

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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2009, 09:15:39 AM »
I'll recommend D'Addario Chromes- they're a little bit brighter than most flats and are a favorite of mine for both fretted and fretless.
 
EDIT: the other plus with flats is that they will literally last you forever.... bass strings can be expensive, but a set of flats will last for years.
 
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« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2009, 09:35:48 AM »
+1 for the chromes for inexpensive flats
 
and of course TI nickel flats if you want to go the distance  
 
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« Reply #3 on: December 23, 2009, 09:44:06 AM »
I learned about Pyramid Flats (they are great) on this forum

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« Reply #4 on: December 23, 2009, 10:05:35 AM »
Yes  I like the PYRAMID GOLD for flats but they are VERY expensive! I have been using Pyramid Gold flats since 1973!
   
   For   rounds _ ALEMBIC or  DEAN MARKLEY BLUE STEEL.
 
    The DEAN MARKLEY BLUE STEEL are  cheap and last a long time !
 
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« Reply #5 on: December 23, 2009, 10:08:05 AM »
One thing about Chromes is that I find they're very high tension, at least on my 35 5'er.  You may want to experiment with a couple less expensive flats to see what you like in terms of tone and tension.  I think GHS Precision Flats are kind of the standard, and they're only 20 bucks at Juststrings. La Bella has a couple different flats that people like, I've never tried 'em.  The Chromes do have a nice sound to them, bright like rounds.
 
So many strings out there... I wish I could be more help.  I've asked for a set of TI Jazz Flats for Christmas and I hope they're the last set I need for awhile.

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« Reply #6 on: December 23, 2009, 10:09:55 AM »
This is a fretless, so it might be a good idea to start out with flats. The Chromes are a good compromise both price-wise and tension-wise, and brightness-wise as well, as Toby pointed out.

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« Reply #7 on: December 23, 2009, 10:10:54 AM »
Bill, if Santa gives me those flats I'll give you the chromes - late Hanukah present.  You'll have to wait until next week though.

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« Reply #8 on: December 23, 2009, 10:40:33 AM »
D'Addario Chromes here. I am still using the same set I sent to Alembic when I had my fretless built. They are fairly high tension as Jack mentioned but I find them quite comfortable and the cost is much less that TI's.  
 
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« Reply #9 on: December 23, 2009, 12:34:01 PM »
What about length?  Do I need extra long or anything in particular?
 
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« Reply #10 on: December 23, 2009, 01:30:29 PM »
Regular long scale should do it.  You'll just need to cut a little off the B, and inch or so (yer guitar string cutters won't work here, ha, need a wire cutter or needle nose pliers).  Extra long is for 35 scale strung through the body or some craziness.

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« Reply #11 on: December 23, 2009, 02:04:18 PM »
Bill; I haven't strung a guitar in quite a long time, but if I recall correctly, attaching the strings to the tuners on a bass is done differently than on a guitar.
 
How I do it (again by memory; I haven't changed strings in a year).
 
Place the ball end into the tailpiece.  Pull the string taut past the tuner.  Hold the string in your left hand so that your fingers are grasping the string about three inches or so past the tuner.
 
While still holding the string taut, take a pair of needle nose pliers in your right hand and make a 90 degree bend in the string where your left hand is holding it about three inches past the tuner.
 
Take the needle nose pliers and cut the string about a half inch beyond the 90 degree bend.
 
Take this short bent end and place it in the hole in the center of the tuner, with the remaining portion of the string fed out through one of the side slots, preferable the slot that's furthest away from the tailpiece.
 
Checking to make sure the ball end is still firmly in place in the tailpiece slot, hold the string in your right hand about a third of the distance from the tailpiece to the tuner and pull up toward the ceiling until the string is taut.  Actually I use my thumb to keep the nut end of the string lower so that the wraps don't slip off the tuner, while my fingers keep the bridge end of the string higher to take up the slack.
 
Begin turning the tuner with your left hand so that the wrap is to the inside of the headstock, keeping the string taut with your right hand.  You want your wraps to neatly stack, not overlapping each other.  Keep an eye on the tailpiece end to make sure the string falls into the saddle groove; and keep your other eye on the nut to make sure the string threads don't get caught on the edge, and that the string falls into the nut slot once you have the string tight.
 
Ideally you'll want to end up with three wraps on each tuner.

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« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2009, 02:11:29 PM »
The DEAN MARKLEY BLUE STEEL are cheap and last a long time
 
I'll second that sentiment I bought a 10 pack some 10 years ago and
still have one set unopened.
They last forever. You couldn't kill them with a stick!
 
I have just recently bought a set of Rotosound 77
monel flatwounds. For my fretless the sound is superb
as for longevity it is still too early to say as they have only been on my bass for about  
5 weeks but stiil sound just as bright.
 
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« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2009, 02:34:43 PM »
Bill,
I have my Epic (4 String) strung with Chromes. The sound is really fat, but, I do agree that the tension  
seems tight and I find my hands
kind of tired after a long set, we usually do at least 90 min. sets.  
All that said I do love the sound.  Maybe someone knows something else that sounds
close? but is a little less tiring?
Kenn

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« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2009, 02:59:37 PM »
Tension can be a good thing if it means SNAP for your syncopation.
 
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