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rv_bass

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Re: Gigging AMP LESS!
« Reply #30 on: January 26, 2020, 07:19:50 PM »

Bill’s idea of a small monitor at ear level is a good one...




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Re: Gigging AMP LESS!
« Reply #31 on: January 27, 2020, 04:31:02 AM »
Thanks for the info, Bill... Kustom does make a little bigger model of powered monitor I think, but good to know that one could work up close.  ;)

I'm going to try a few things. I think Jimmy's probably right about satisfaction levels, really all of you have made excellent points. Although a roadie would be great, we're not that kind of band... playing with HGB is grab-it-and-grunt, and hurry-up-every-chance-you-get. (sometimes I think we play the music for free, and get paid for all the work that goes into setting up... you guys you what I mean, right?) I'm 50, and suffering from early onset osteoarthritis in my upper back. I can play, but I don't do anything in a hurry, and I just can't hump a bass rig around anymore, so concessions have to be made. The guys totally understand my situation here, and are willing to do whatever it takes to get me back onboard. This needs to end up as close to a plug-in and play situation as possible, and I'm coming to grips with knowing my bass just isn't going to sound like it did before. Looking for ways to mitigate that is really opening a whole new can-o-worms. If I'm going to deal with a high end powered monitor, that's still a speaker to haul. I can't really see leaving that in the band van, 40-some miles away. Why not just leave my bass rig in there too? (you guys would have to see the van to fully appreciate why I don't do that)

This whole adventure might end up a blessing in disguise. I'm on a crazy 10-day on, 4-day off work schedule this week, and got customers lined up in my bass shop every evening too, but I'll have some time next week for some experimenting. Many, Many Thanks All.  :)


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Re: Gigging AMP LESS!
« Reply #32 on: January 27, 2020, 05:52:56 AM »
....(sometimes I think we play the music for free, and get paid for all the work that goes into setting up... you guys you what I mean, right?) I'm 50, and suffering from early onset osteoarthritis in my upper back. I can play, but I don't do anything in a hurry, and I just can't hump a bass rig around anymore, so concessions have to be made.

Putting my usual wiseassery aside for a moment, may I recommend a fEARful cab and a Class D amp? 

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Re: Gigging AMP LESS!
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2020, 09:38:12 PM »

Putting my usual wiseassery aside for a moment, may I recommend a fEARful cab and a Class D amp? 

Peter

I have one I never use any more. The cab is beat up but the parts are all good if anyone wants to take them off my hands and built a cabinet. They are fairly easy to do, lightweight and sound good.

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Re: Gigging AMP LESS!
« Reply #34 on: February 07, 2020, 08:59:24 AM »
My lightweight rig is Genz Benz Streamliner 900 (no weight at all) and Bergantino HDN 112 (12 kg).  I also have a Genzler 350 to back up and they also do an 800. My Berg HD112s (20 kg) stay at home now.  If starting from scratch, Bergantino have just released a NXT range and the 112 is about 13 kg.  I also use a Barefaced ONE 10 at 7kg with the Genzler.
My point is that there is much lighter stuff out there that is as good if not better than the stuff we used to lug around.  Both my amps. DI as well, of course.
Glynn
   

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Re: Gigging AMP LESS!
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2020, 10:00:16 AM »
I'm still pondering things, and without any particular sense of urgency. No one piece of my current gig-rig is prohibitively heavy. The heaviest cabinet is the coaxial Bag End, at about 35 lbs, the other is even less, I could probably get by with one, easily on most gigs. My amp is a Mesa D-800, weighs a negligible amount, maybe 3 lbs. Bag of cables and etc ain't nothing either. But then there's my bass, a backup, my chair, and a stand... next thing you know, I've made 8 trips to the car. It's just too much work.

Trouble is, I'm wearing myself out setting up stuff. My energy level being what it is, and with what's left of my upper-spine, that isn't going to work anymore. Simplify. Plug in direct, and play; that's the goal. I think we're going to give it a try soon, and just see how it sounds with our current monitors. Our soundguy thinks if he can keep the low frequency stuff in my wedge away from a couple live mics, we'll be okay. (from his perspective) Those frequencies he tells me, are more troublesome because they are much less directional. There are going to be compromises here... I don't expect it to sound like it used to. Just hoping I can find a way to make it work.
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Re: Gigging AMP LESS!
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2020, 01:45:31 PM »
I'm into cab simulation now, just to be sure on always sending the same tone to the console despite of which amps or cabinets will be available in the venue.

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Re: Gigging AMP LESS!
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2020, 04:22:06 PM »
Greg, you might consider selling your two Bag End cabs and getting a Barefaced Big Baby 2 or Super Compact.  I know they are expensive, but they are light weight, and that with something like a Quilter Bass Block (light weight and powerful) should give you all you need for stage sound and audience sound in smaller spaces. In larger spaces you would probably go through the PA as well for audience sound.  Otherwise, in ear monitors straight from the board with emphasis on bass might be the best option.  Or, do what Ron Carter does a few posts back with a line out to the board for PA. Keep working it, you will find a solution.  :)
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