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« on: May 04, 2007, 10:59:47 AM »
i dont ever drink and drive and never stupid when traveling  
    
St. Louis Cardinals pitcher Josh Hancock was drunk and talking on his cell phone at the time of his fatal accident, and marijuana was found in the sport utility vehicle he was driving.
 
 
Medical examiner Michael Graham said at a news conference Friday that the 29-year-old reliever was dead within seconds from head injuries in the crash early Sunday on Interstate 64 in St. Louis. His vehicle hit the back of a tow truck parked on the highway to assist a driver from a previous accident.
 
There is nothing at all that could have been done for him, Graham said.
 
Hancock's blood-alcohol level was 0.157, nearly twice Missouri's legal limit of 0.08, Graham said.
 
Police Chief Joe Mokwa said 8.55 grams of marijuana and a glass pipe used to smoke marijuana were found in the rented Ford Explorer. Toxicology tests to determine if drugs were in his system had not been completed.
 
An accident reconstruction team determined Hancock was traveling 68 mph in a 55 mph zone when his SUV struck the back of a flatbed tow truck stopped in a driving lane. Mokwa said there was no evidence Hancock tried to stop. He did swerve, but too late to avoid the collision.

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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2007, 01:25:19 PM »
I heard he also wasn't wearing his seatbelt.
 
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« Reply #2 on: May 04, 2007, 04:24:43 PM »
At least he won't be able to threaten anyone else any more with his recklessness.  Good riddence.  I hope the person he hit wasn't injured seriously -or (obviously/ideally) at all.
 
It's especially terrible how often the reckless meatbags who cause terrible accidents suffer little to no serious harm -while their victims die and/or are maimed and/or crippled for life.
 
I met a guy a few weeks ago who told me that Californias new no talking on the cell phone and driving law was the result of a 19 year old girl who plowed into him arguing with her boyfriend on her cellphone.  It crushed his intestines and damaged his spine -he lived in constant pain since then, and likely will for the rest of his life.  She gets to spend the rest of hers living with no such dehabilitating consequences.  The unfairness of this is obvious.
 
So some may think it harsh, but I'm frankly glad to see him go.  One less irresponsible meatbag to threaten the lives of those of us that are responsible... we've got enough to worry about already.

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« Reply #3 on: May 04, 2007, 04:32:14 PM »
I think we all are just a few bad decisions away from being irresponsible meatbags.

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« Reply #4 on: May 04, 2007, 05:20:17 PM »
I have been a paramedic for 22 years. Let's just say I have seen a few things. Believe it or not 99% of the time the drunk guy is the one that walks away without a scatch. The laws are just not strict enough I had a good friend killed by a drunk driver who had 5 DUI's. I drive 12 hours a day and see people doing stupid thing all the time and I have put them in meatbags for it.

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« Reply #5 on: May 04, 2007, 07:16:02 PM »
I don't allow myself to become hindered as a matter of policy. Sadly I do know of those who still live life with no fear of consequence. I read someone the riot act for refusing to give me their keys after a gig and then driving in an extremely reckless fashion. The point I made that struck home was that a few select friends of mine would stomp him out if anything happened to me and I will never ride with him again .
 
 We have all escaped misfortune at one time or another either by fate, grace of God, guardian angel etc. I do agree with precarius that we are but a few bad decisions away from tragedy.  
So i will use this as a reminder of how fleeting and precious life is and of my responsibility to be dilligent on the road.

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« Reply #6 on: May 04, 2007, 08:55:10 PM »
I NEVER drink, and NEVER do drugs.  I just don't like it.  I think when folks slip behind the wheel that are drunk are just plain irresponsible and selfish.
 
Meatbag.  I like that.  A good description for these folks.
 
I lost a niece to a drunk driver.  The accident happened in Mississippi.  In that state, no matter how drunk, it is just an accident.  So this meatbag is a free man, still drunk and doing drugs.  
 
Every year on her birthday I send HIM a birthday card in her name.  He probably don't get it.

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« Reply #7 on: May 04, 2007, 09:28:58 PM »
I think the article said he was a dead man, seatbelt or no, based upon the rest of the impact conditions.

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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2007, 11:03:27 PM »
Well, last night in Las Vegas, we had what the Metro Police are calling the second worst accident in recent Las Vegas memory.  (The first was a few years ago when a young woman -I think her name was Michelle Williams- plowed into I think 6 teenagers that were doing -I think- community service.  She killed 'em all.  Pretty gruesome.  She was stoned at the time... and I think some other drug(s) were involved... possibly prescription.  She's doing time now.)
 
Anyway, last night, a drunken 19 year old was speeding and ran thru a stop sign and plowed into a SUV carrying a family of 8.  It instantly burst into flames, and though bystandarders pulled out a few survivors, 8 members of the family were killed -including the 32 year old mother, an infant, a toddler, and two young boys.
 
19 year old Ronald Jayne Jr., the driver of the vehicle that hit the family's SUV suffered minor injuries and faces at least 20 criminal counts of driving under the influence involving a death and five counts of reckless driving involving a death or injury.
 
The 32 year old mother/driver and two young boys died instantly on the scene from the impact, and the approximately 18 month old child and less than a year old child died on the way to the emergency room.  The three survivors are currently listed in very serious condition.
 
Kind of like what you've described, huh, David?  Naturally, the driver escaped unscathed.  Of course, given the carnage, it's unlikely he'll escape with a light sentence -first time offense or not... not that that will mean much to the survivors of his carnage.
 
Obviously the sentencing for these crimes is far too light.  It doesn't matter to me, because I dread the thought of doing something like this to other people, and would never ever allow myself to drive in an impaired condition nor recklessly run through stop signs without regard for the safety of others.
 
But for others who lack their own internal motivations and ethics, there need to be laws that will may them live in fear of the consequences of such reckless behavior.
 
A few years ago, a woman won the largest Megabucks jackpot in Nevada history -over 33 million dollars.  A few weeks later, she was transformed into a parapoligiec and her sister killed by a drunk drive who had SEVENTEEN prior arrests and convictions for DUI and/or DWI.  Seventeen.  Of course, he was put away after that.  But why, WHY, did it take the crippling of that poor woman and the death of her sister for the maniac to be put away?
 
Something needs to be done... and the people yakking on the cell phones are about as bad.  Recent studies indicate that people yakking on their cell phones -and text messaging... while driving!!!- are more dangerous than drunk drivers.
 
Just a little sunshine to share with everyone.
 
Sorry for the ugliness, take care gang.
 
And be safe everyone.
 
My girl was almost in TWO serious accidents caused by idiots changing lanes without signaling today.  If she had been the slightest bit distracted, I might be identifying her body now.
 
Please be safe... don't become the next statistic.

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« Reply #9 on: May 18, 2007, 06:24:38 PM »
Guys please excuse me while I vent a little.
 
I took of work early today. 3 of us loaded up our Motorcycles and headed for The Chickasaw National Park for a weekend camping trip.  
 
As we headed up US Hwy-75 through Allen TX our trip got cut short when a DRUNK IDIOT plows into the rear of us and take's 2 of us out, me and my brother-in-law. And to top it off he was on the phone too.
 
Only by the grace of God are we OK. We both suffered only minor injuries that we know of. Back, neck and ankle hurt pretty good but nothing broken as far as I can tell.
 
Our bikes are bent pretty good but repairable as far as I can see.
 
Driving is not a right folks it's a privilege, and with that privilege comes much responsibility. i.e. DON?T DRIVE UNDER THE INFLUENCE of anything. Pull over to make or take that call. Don?t drive while angry, depressed or upset about anything. And don?t drive like it?s a video game, the crashes are real.
 
Take care guys and gals and please, PLEASE, please if you?re going to partake, do it at home or call a cab.
 
 
Got that ?Hedge of Protection?,
 
Olie

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« Reply #10 on: May 18, 2007, 08:11:54 PM »
Olie,
 
Glad to hear that you made it out vertical and breathing.  Make sure you get that neck and back checked thoroughly- back pain is not something to mess with.
 
Get ready for the soreness tomorrow. If you got any kind of decent wiplash, you're gonna be a real sore puppy tomorrow.
 
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« Reply #11 on: May 18, 2007, 09:11:58 PM »
God was with y'all, Olie. Glad it was not as bad as it could have been.
 
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« Reply #12 on: May 19, 2007, 09:58:47 AM »
Olie:
 
Glad to hear it didn't turn out worse.  Do get yourself checked out.  If something pops up later, the documentation will help if you find yourself in litigation.
 
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« Reply #13 on: May 19, 2007, 05:07:43 PM »
Went to the doc today everything seems OK. X-rays showed nothing. Just some severely strained muscles and such.  
I am much more sore today and top that off with a case of TPO and it's been a lousy Saturday to say the least.

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« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2007, 07:40:32 AM »
Olie, glad to hear you're ok.  Even though I've never met you in person, I would be seriously distressed to learn you had been badly injured or killed.  You seem like a really great guy and you contribute a lot to this forum, and I get the impression that you contribute a lot to those around you in real life, too.  Not to get all mushy, but we do tend to take our lives, health, and companions for granted sometimes. Your experience is a reminder that bad things can happen, and we don't always get a warning, so here's a little love coming your way.  I'm praying for your speedy recovery with no complications!
Charles