Author Topic: Salute on Memorial Day (Read 450 times)

rraymond · « **Reply #30 on:** May 31, 2007, 11:02:47 AM »

John, it was a great day. It was one of those simple pleasures, kind of days. It was funny, too, being that none of us had played croquet in years. I'm sure a few rules were bent!

Reid

joram · « **Reply #31 on:** May 31, 2007, 05:53:09 PM »

After reading Bill's post, I somehow feel obliged to react.
Like Bill, I am in awe of the Constitution and the principles the nation, which is called the United States of America, was founded upon.
I also do feel, however, connected to those who sense that contemporary American international politics have much (at least in form) in common with imperial politics through history, examples of which could be Mesopotamian or Egyptian scriptures. I'm sorry I can't come up with direct quotes, but I can tell you I found the articles I've read quite convincing.
With this post I have never meant to bring up any anti-American sentiments, nor did I mean to stir any among you, both American and foreign. Just my two (euro-)cents.

Joram

adriaan · « **Reply #32 on:** June 01, 2007, 02:57:16 AM »

Joram,

Don't forget our own (Dutch) imperial politics 1600-1950.

The struggle for independence that led to the formation of the Dutch Republic was a great inspiration for the formation of the USA, and so the VOC mentality that Balkenende wanted to promote only last year is right at the heart of the USA.

811952 · « **Reply #33 on:** June 01, 2007, 11:28:50 AM »

I believe that no matter what your politics or beliefs, we are all seeking pretty much the same things in life. Those would be: security, sustenance and happiness. The things that separate us are often the most irrelevant. We are all far more alike than we are different.

It was good for Olie to have started this most-worthwhile (and civil) dialogue, even if (or because) it did go somewhere unexpected.

John