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lbpesq

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« on: October 28, 2007, 11:56:56 AM »
For years I recorded rehearsals & gigs (& the occasional bootleg) with my old trusty Sony Pro-Walkman.  When it died a few years ago, I got a Sony Mini-disc.  I've never been very happy with it.  The recordings seem o.k., but it's just too much of a pain-in-the-ass to use.  My biggest complaint is that I can't tell if it's working or not.  With my old Pro-Walkman, all you had to do was look at it and see the tape going around and the LED meter lighting in conjunction with the music volume.  With the mini-disc. I'm never sure if it's recording.  No reels spinning and the readout is so tiny and monochrome that I feel I need to stop playing and put it under a microscope to see if it's really on.  I've lost many songs when I thought it was recording and it wasn't.  And forget asking anyone else to use it to record the band at a gig while I'm playing.  Too complicated.  So what I'm looking for is a portable recorder that is VERY easy to use at rehearsal.  I don't need internal effects, DSP, a host of editing, midi capability, cup holder, back-up lights, run-flat tires, camera, or any of the the other unnecessary bells and whistles they seem to attach to everything electronic these days.  I want a simple, easy to use on-the-fly small recorder to take to rehearsal and the occasional gig.  Function is more important that price at this point.  Which units should I be looking at?  Any and all suggestions greatly appreciated.
 
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« Reply #1 on: October 28, 2007, 12:11:59 PM »

http://www.transom.org/tools/recording_interviewing/200707_tascam_hdp2/
 
(Message edited by davehouck on October 28, 2007)

lbpesq

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« Reply #2 on: October 28, 2007, 12:19:51 PM »
Thanks, Keavin, but I think I'm looking for something a little more portable.  Ideally small enough to fit in a big pocket or in my guitar case.  I know me - if it's too big or too much of a hassle to use, I won't bring it/use it.
 
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« Reply #3 on: October 28, 2007, 01:35:19 PM »
Jeez, Bill, I can't imagine you finding anything of better-than-walkman quality in a smaller package.
 
I know there was at least one iPod competitor that had line-in capability, so I would look at the various offerings in that realm if you want something that compact.  You may also have to spring for a powered microphone setup to get it done.

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« Reply #4 on: October 28, 2007, 02:07:30 PM »
I bought an M-Audio Microtrack 24/96 in July after having researched the space. I chose the M-Audio based on positive reviews, price and ease of use.
 
I used it to record a Basscast show when my Pro Tools rig was down. It hung when I stopped it at the end of the show. Totally locked up. Rebooted. Lost show. Not happy.
 
I tried to update the firmware. The system locked up permanently. M-Audio's response: Send it back with proof of purchase, etc and we'll take a look at it.
 
YMMV
 
David

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« Reply #5 on: October 28, 2007, 02:49:06 PM »
Bob:
 
Are you suggesting that an old Pro-Walkman cassette recorder matches up quality-wise to all this new hi-falutin digital stuff?  I guess I'm just assuming that dinosaurs like me and the Walkman just can't compare to modern technology.  Like Humphrey Bogart explaining why he came to Casablanca (for the waters  but there are no waters in Casablanca), am I mis-informed?
The units I've been looking at include the M-Audio Microtrack II, Zoom H4, Korg MR1, Sony PCMD50, and Edirol R09.  
 
I can't seem to find a good comparison and contrast of these units.  
 
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« Reply #6 on: October 28, 2007, 06:39:09 PM »
Hell no, only that there are some 4-track digital recorders with hard disk that aren't much larger than a dinner plate.  I expect better quality and versatility from one of those than from an iPod sized player that also records stereo in the modern stylistic equivalent to the old Walkman.  Clearly, those little digital recorders will be better than the cassette tape of years gone by.
 
I'll do a little research and see if I can come up with anything that might add to what you've already found out.

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« Reply #7 on: October 28, 2007, 07:15:23 PM »
Bill, I have been using the Zoom H4 since last February to record my casual jams. I have been very happy with the quality, and I have only ever used the onboard mics. The nesting of menus is not the easiest, but the important functions are right there on the unit. I have been applying a fairly subtle Apple multiband compression pass, and the results are impressive. I chose it over M-Audio and Edirol because at the time it was $100 less, and a buddy had issues with lack of mic pads on his M-Audio unit. I have no regrets. If you'd like I can email you a cut from last Saturdays jam, as long as you can play an AAC file........ James

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« Reply #8 on: October 28, 2007, 07:16:47 PM »
I'm sure you've been looking around the web.  One of my favorite sites for this kind of info is Sound-on-Sound, a UK-based audio magazine.  They have reviews and info about all but the Sony there.  
 
From what I have read, there seems to be little to differentiate them.  The Sony looks good with built-in memory and USB connectivity, but the highest price.  I might have to get one of these things as it would let me make reasonable recordings where I would otherwise leave my eight track home.  You might also find it very useful in your business for recording and archiving legal proceedings.  I know I would find it useful for doing interviews and such.
 
-bob

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« Reply #9 on: October 28, 2007, 07:18:15 PM »
BTW, you know it's in record because there is a big red glowing button telling you so :-)

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2007, 06:38:06 AM »
Bill.
I've been looking at the Zoom H2. Not as complicated as the H4 and around 2/3rds the price. If I ever get the money to buy one I'll let you know how it does.
 
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« Reply #11 on: October 30, 2007, 02:33:08 AM »
The dinosaur in me uses and old but in incredibly good working order Akai DS4000MkII reel to reel recorder, big, heavy and bulky but listen to that tape saturation!!!
1/4 inch tape running at 7.5 ips..you can't beat it!!!

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« Reply #12 on: October 30, 2007, 02:36:14 AM »
Ha! i used to carry my Sony TC630 everywhere - as big as my current 6 slot rack and just as heavy. Used make superb stereo recordings till everything seized up. Now you've set me thinking though. it's still in the loft so could probably be fixed but it's maybe economically unviable compared to ?150 for the zoom H2.
 
Graeme

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« Reply #13 on: October 30, 2007, 04:19:56 AM »
Terry's post sent me googling. Amazingly, someone has a site which lists movies in which reel- reel recorders can be seen how sad is that?
 
Mine appears in a clockwork orange ;-)
 
Now I'll have a serious look for repair shops.
 
Graeme

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« Reply #14 on: October 30, 2007, 09:36:55 AM »
jacko..siezed..maybe the drive belt OR the drive wheel to the capstans need lubricant..obviously if it is over 20 years old the oil will dry out unless the motor has gone completely.
It wouldn't hurt having a look yourself, sometimes a spray with WD40 or Servisol switch cleaner can get it going again