Author Topic: CALLING ALL MEMBERS, you need to read and please reply with feedback (Read 659 times)

lbpesq · « **Reply #30 on:** April 28, 2009, 10:18:20 PM »

I appreciate Greg's friend giving advice, but I suspect the laws will be different in each state in the U.S. and then each of our other-than-USA members will have their own laws to deal with. I really don't think there is one set of laws that will cover everyone's situation.

Bill, tlgo (the lawyer guitar one - Paul would be proud!)

dadabass2001 · « **Reply #31 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:56:29 AM »

I would hope to be in on the $10/ticket, club raffle idea. Assuming I can avoid foreclosure...

Mike

gyonnii · « **Reply #32 on:** April 29, 2009, 08:27:21 AM »

Yes the only Laws that will apply is where/which state the money is sent to, as far as the participants it will depend on there country if out of the U.S. if showed as a gift or what Custom issues they may have, so if you live in New york and the money is sent to Texas, then the laws apply to Texas Lottery laws.

It's like if I buy a Lottery ticket in Georgia and I am living in South Carolina, South Carolina can't touch me but I have to abide by Georgia and pay the taxes there on my winnings.

lbpesq · « **Reply #33 on:** April 29, 2009, 08:52:56 AM »

I don't know about South Carolina, but California levies income tax on residents' out of state earnings. Like I said above, the laws are different in each state. Unless Greg's friend has researched each individual state's laws, the legal opinion shouldn't be relied upon.

Bill, tgo

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #34 on:** April 29, 2009, 09:35:26 AM »

Why do I get the feeling that this idea will fizzle out because of petty legal issues? How about we make it a double-secret raffle, and just don't tell the government?

hieronymous · « **Reply #35 on:** April 29, 2009, 09:44:33 AM »

Recently, the religious organization that I work for (based in California) did a raffle - something like $20.00 per ticket, with a grand prize of $10,000 - and found out half way through that it was illegal to sell the raffle tickets to people out of state! So they had to refund all those people, as they weren't eligible to participate.

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #36 on:** April 29, 2009, 11:07:18 AM »

What's that fizzling sound I'm hearing?

/lives in Missouri

hieronymous · « **Reply #37 on:** April 29, 2009, 12:44:20 PM »

There may be ways to work around it, just pointing out that there would need to be careful understanding of the legal ramifications. Which sucks of course! It seems like a great idea.

cozmik_cowboy · « **Reply #38 on:** April 29, 2009, 02:01:40 PM »

I have the solution! Since I would obviously win anyway, to get around the raffle, each of you could just send Alembic $100 in my name........

Peter

gyonnii · « **Reply #39 on:** April 29, 2009, 02:16:39 PM »

the key element is the club within itself, call it annual dues for club membership and as long as we do not sell a number to anyone outside the club we can get around it,

call it a raffle or lottery or contest but as long as it is contained within...I mean come on..I am not going to call the IRS and say I just won an Alembic Bass..if I did that I would cut my hands off and never play Bass again. Amen to that!

each one of us could write on a piece of paper 5 numbers of any combonation and if it is duplicated then you will be notified to pick another one and send it in with the money in case there is a duplicate from another member which I doubt. Maybe Mica could post the winning number and then arragements can be made for the presentation and winner can pick what design he wants as far as neck etc...or necks within the buget

hydrargyrum · « **Reply #40 on:** April 29, 2009, 02:29:28 PM »

I hear what you are saying Greg, and I know I certainly wouldn't run to pay taxes on such a prize (not that I would fore go them either). Unfortunately, I am afraid Alembic would by association become entangled in some way in the legal ramifications if someone chose to disregard applicable laws. I really don't know for sure if this is true(I'm not a lawyer like Bill, but I respect the reservations he has voiced), but these are my suspicions.

(Message edited by hydrargyrum on April 29, 2009)

gyonnii · « **Reply #41 on:** April 29, 2009, 04:00:43 PM »

Yes I agree, I spoke with John today moments ago and he plans to contact Alembic before things get too far ahead and I know although he may not like the IRS that he will not do anything like this unless we have a legal loophole and trump card to play.
He will only do this if it is by the book, or we have a way around the book without any illegal hauntings.
I trust John completely and I know he will fully research it before he say's get your ticket's now.

This post he told me was just to see if their were enough interested people willing to partake in such a drawing and if so then to spend the time to research the possibility of making it a reality

lbpesq · « **Reply #42 on:** April 29, 2009, 05:24:16 PM »

Hey, lets all engage in an illegal conspiracy to avoid taxes and talk about here on the internet. Nobody will ever know! (yea, right). Count me out. Dear IRS, Dept. of Justice, and various state law enforcement entities: I am not part of this.

Bill, tgo

jerryme · « **Reply #43 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:24:30 PM »

Ditto...

jerryme · « **Reply #44 on:** April 29, 2009, 06:33:28 PM »

That said, if the prize was lowered to a gift certificate to Alembic for say $7,000 (just enough for me to purchase the kit guitar or a stage Further (oh baby) I would beg to pay the taxes on such as prize won after purchasing 3 $10 chances. Lets make this happen, and but only if it does not cause a coniption or otherwise bother on the people I (we) look up to and hold in such high regard. (go Alembic!)