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bassman10096

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« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2007, 07:21:14 PM »
Holy Cow, Bill!  WP 5.1?  I was trying to describe prehistoric, pre-Windows, pre-LAN PC culture to my 13 year old the other night and I said the same thing about Word Perfect.  But I confess I'm a wimp who couldn't really imagine giving up graphic user interface and WYSIWYG.  You are my hero.  
 
WP for Windows could never hold a candle to the DOS version (or to Word).  Are all of the codes (underline, bold, etc) still color coded across the affected text?  I remember having WP on an HP PC with a (then massive) 40 meg (not gig) hard drive.  My phone has more memory than that.    
 
I don't know if Mac could handle WP. But I'm sure somebody around here would know.
 
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« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2007, 08:07:31 PM »
This looks like it'll do the trick. Only 79 bucks, too!
 
http://www.parallels.com/en/products/desktop/
 
I wish I had my Mac back. It got too expensive keeping up in the Mac and Microsoft worlds, not to mention having an expensive music habit!

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« Reply #17 on: December 20, 2007, 12:13:04 AM »
Ah, WP 5.1 - the master of all wordprocessors. I still miss the underwater screen like we used to call it, where you could see all the layout tags and edit them. And nobody does tabs like WP did.
 
Definitely not a Mac fan - not a Windows fan either - but why can't you have these plain old drive mappings to keep your own stuff organized your own way. Even Windows is trying to force me to use the labyrinth they call My Documents.
 
And don't get me started on the newest Mac screen features - blink-blink, poppety-pop, nag-nag.

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« Reply #18 on: December 20, 2007, 02:19:32 AM »
I am currently forced to work on a MAC in my job and apart from its nice looks there is nothing supperior to it compared to what I am used to under Windows. It is said to be the strongest machine on the market, but in my reality the workflow on it is much slowed down compared to the workflow on Windows.
 
At least in a professional working environment where you need to quickly access full file path infos, copy and paste to distribute them etc. it is really annoying to have to find workarounds for the easiest tasks under MAC OS. Opened windows of different programs keep getting in each other's way, clutter the screen and you can only ever see one program's menu at a time. If your program's main window is in the lower right corner of your big screen, you still have to travel your mouse all the way across the screen to the top menu, whereas on Windows each programs menu is within the program's main window and its reach per se and you can cascade various programs on your screen and have direct access to each individual menu. Oh well, just these little things that make life easier or harder in your daily workflow...
 
I guess the MAC OS is fine if you don't have to dig in deeper and just use it as is. If you WANT to dig in deeper, it seems like you really have to fight the system.  
 
After all, it is all a matter of what you are used to. If you are used to do it the MAC-way you probably hate to do it the Windows-way and vice versa. Nevertheless, the MACs look nice, and as FZ already said: Beauty knows no pain... That's how I feel in my current job.  
 
Did I mention my MAC is crashing at least once per day?
 
...your frustrated MAC user...

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« Reply #19 on: December 20, 2007, 07:23:02 AM »
Hartmut,
 
Most of the current Macs can run OSX and whatever Windows operating system you prefer....  My sister just got a new Mac and has them both loaded- touch one of the function keys and the whole screen just flips- OSX to Windows or vice-versa.
 
(Message edited by tbrannon on December 20, 2007)

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« Reply #20 on: December 20, 2007, 08:10:19 AM »
Toby,
 
Yes, you are right and we already considered this. Anyway, new PCs are already on their way and will arrive right after Christmas here at the company, so there is no real need for installing another OS before then. The MAC will then move over to the film compositing guys, for whom it was originally bought, and I can continue my 3D work more hassle free on a PC. I am really not in love with either OS, I just love the general idea of hassle free.  
 
MACs are used in film compositing ever since Apple bought the company who made (one of) the superior compositing software called Shake, much like they bought Emagic (i.e. Logic). And much as with Logic, Apple dumped all Windows support for Shake thus forcing users to either switch to MACs or Linux. Many people use Linux.
 
Anyway, thanks for your suggestions. I will be fine soon.
 
There is one thing however I found really interesting on this MAC and that is Garage Band. I had only heard its name but never new what it is about (something like Band-In-A-Box, I thought). It sounds really promising quality-wise but I still have no clue on how I can use it or what I can actually do with it that would differ from your regular sequencer program. I do own Band-In-A-Box.  
 
Is Garage Band like that?

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« Reply #21 on: December 20, 2007, 10:44:21 PM »
If Operating Systems Ran The Airlines...
 
UNIX Airways
 
Everyone brings one piece of the plane along when they come to the airport. They all go out on the runway and put the plane together piece by piece, arguing non-stop about what kind of plane they are supposed to be building.
 
Air DOS
 
Everybody pushes the airplane until it glides, then they jump on and let the plane coast until it hits the ground again. Then they push again, jump on again, and so on...
 
Mac Airlines
 
All the stewards, captains, baggage handlers, and ticket agents look and act exactly the same. Every time you ask questions about details, you are gently but firmly told that you don't need to know, don't want to know, and everything will be done for you without your ever having to know, so just shut up.
 
Windows Air
 
The terminal is pretty and colourful, with friendly stewards, easy baggage check and boarding, and a smooth take-off. After about 10 minutes in the air, the plane explodes with no warning whatsoever.
 
Windows NT Air
 
Just like Windows Air, but costs more, uses much bigger planes, and takes out all the other aircraft within a 40-mile radius when it explodes.
 
Windows XP Air
 
You turn up at the airport,which is under contract to only allow XP Air planes. All the aircraft are identical, brightly coloured and three times as big as they need to be. The signs are huge and all point the same way. Whichever way you go, someone pops up dressed in a cloak and pointed hat insisting you follow him. Your luggage and clothes are taken off you and replaced with an XP Air suit and suitcase identical to everyone around you as this is included in the exorbitant ticket cost. The aircraft will not take off until you have signed a contract. The inflight entertainment promised turns out to be the same Mickey Mouse cartoon repeated over and over again. You have to phone your travel agent before you can have a meal or drink. You are searched regularly throughout the flight. If you go to the toilet twice or more you get charged for a new ticket. No matter what destination you booked you will always end up crash landing at Whistler in Canada.
OSX Air:
 
You enter a white terminal, and all you can see is a woman sitting in the corner behind a white desk, you walk up to get your ticket. She smiles and says Welcome to OS X Air, please allow us to take your picture, at which point a camera in the wall you didn't notice before takes your picture. Thank you, here is your ticket You are handed a minimalistic ticket with your picture at the top, it already has all of your information. A door opens to your right and you walk through. You enter a wide open space with one seat in the middle, you sit, listen to music and watch movies until the end of the flight. You never see any of the other passengers. You land, get off, and you say to yourself wow, that was really nice, but I feel like something was missing
 
Windows Vista Airlines:
 
You enter a good looking terminal with the largest planes you have ever seen. Every 10 feet a security officer appears and asks you if you are sure you want to continue walking to your plane and if you would like to cancel. Not sure what cancel would do, you continue walking and ask the agent at the desk why the planes are so big. After the security officer making sure you want to ask the question and you want to hear the answer, the agent replies that they are bigger because it makes customers feel better, but the planes are designed to fly twice as slow. Adding the size helped achieve the slow fly goal.
 
Once on the plane, every passenger has to be asked individually by the flight attendants if they are sure they want to take this flight. Then it is company policy that the captain asks the passengers collectively the same thing. After answering yes to so many questions, you are punched in the face by some stranger who when he asked Are you sure you want me to punch you in the face? Cancel or Allow? you instinctively say Allow.
 
After takeoff, the pilots realize that the landing gear driver wasn't updated to work with the new plane. Therefore it is always stuck in the down position. This forces the plane to fly even slower, but the pilots are used to it and continue to fly the planes, hoping that soon the landing gear manufacturer will give out a landing gear driver update.
 
You arrive at your destination wishing you had used your reward miles with XP airlines rather than trying out this new carrier. A close friend, after hearing your story, mentions that Linux Air is a much better alternative and helps.
 
Linux Air
 
Disgruntled employees of all the other OS airlines decide to start their own airline. They build the planes, ticket counters, and pave the runways themselves. They charge a small fee to cover the cost of printing the ticket, but you can also download and print the ticket yourself.
 
When you board the plane, you are given a seat, four bolts, a wrench and a copy of the seat-HOWTO.html. Once settled, the fully adjustable seat is very comfortable, the plane leaves and arrives on time without a single problem, the in-flight meal is wonderful. You try to tell customers of the other airlines about the great trip, but all they can say is, You had to do what with the seat?
 
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« Reply #22 on: December 20, 2007, 11:15:55 PM »
Some more:
 
OS/2 SKYWAYS The terminal is almost empty, with only a few prospective passengers milling about. Airline personnel walk around, apologising profusely to customers in hushed voices, pointing from time to time to the sleek, powerful jets outside the terminal on the field. They tell each passenger how good the real flight will be on these new jets and how much safer it will be than Windows Airlines, but that they will have to wait a little longer for the technicians to finish the flight systems.
 
FLY WINDOWS NT All the passengers carry their seats out onto the tarmac, placing the chairs in the outline of a plane. They all sit down, flap their arms and make jet swooshing sounds as if they are flying.
 
WINGS of AS/400 The airline has bought ancient DC-3s, arguably the best and safest planes that ever flew and painted 747 on their tails to make them look as if they are fast. The flight attendants, of course, attend to your every need, though the drinks cost $15 a pop. Stupid questions cost $230 per hour, unless you have SupportLine, which requires a first class ticket and membership in the frequent flyer club.
 
VMS AIRLINES The passengers all gather in the hanger, watching hundreds of technicians check the flight systems on this immense, luxury aircraft. This plane has at least 10 engines and seats over 1,000 passengers. All the passengers scramble aboard, as do the necessary complement of 200 technicians. The pilot takes his place up in the glass cockpit. He guns the engines, only to realise that the plane is too big to get through the hangar doors!
 
UNIX EXPRESS Each passenger brings a piece of the airplane and a box of tools to the airport. They gather on the tarmac, arguing constantly about what kind of plane they want to build and how to put it together. Eventually, they build several different aircraft, but give them all the same name. Some passengers actually reach their destinations. All passengers believe they got there.

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« Reply #23 on: December 21, 2007, 05:25:27 PM »
I think I'll take a train.

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« Reply #24 on: December 24, 2007, 03:03:00 AM »
I just bought a new mac mini, and find the mac platform to be alot more user freindly than a windows based machine.  One of the best things about it is no freeeups, reboots, viruses or spyware.  I cant wait until my Dell laptop dies so I can get a mac.
 
Only downside(s) to macs is that IMO they are very overpriced, and dont have quite the software library that windows machines have.

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« Reply #25 on: December 24, 2007, 07:58:05 AM »
Glocke,
 
I always thought that Macs were slightly overpriced as well, but when you go to spec out a similar PC, it gets downright close to what you pay for your Mac (unless you plan to build it yourself).  Additionally, Mac's tend to have a longer 'useful' life.  I'm running the latest version of OSX on my G4 from 2001- absolutely no problems.  Try that with most PC based machines without upgrading everything....  I used to have to rebuild or replace my PC's every 2-3 years in order for them to be viable.

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« Reply #26 on: December 24, 2007, 08:16:32 AM »
...under my fingers I only let me iBook and my iPhone...
 
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« Reply #27 on: December 24, 2007, 05:44:17 PM »
I use PCs at my office, but have used Macs at home for the last twenty-plus years, and wouldn't have it any other way (except maybe to convince my colleagues at the office to switch).  Macs are easy to use, easy to troubleshoot if there is a problem (which is seldom), and the creative software for Mac is hard to beat.  Plus, they look great.  And as for price, they are not really any more expensive than a PC of decent quality.  You can get cheap PCs, but you usually get what you pay for.
 
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« Reply #28 on: December 26, 2007, 01:29:46 PM »
I use PCs for everything.  I must be the only PC user in the entire world that doesn't suffer crashes/problems daily.  I can't even recall the last time I had my OS crash.  Every once in a while an application will do something naughty and crash on me but it happens very rarely.
 
I use Vista on the system I'm on right now and my recording machine is running 64-bit XP.
 
Those I'm a Mac, I'm a PC commercials make me want to cave someone's skull in.

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« Reply #29 on: December 28, 2007, 04:11:06 AM »
Calm down, man, it's just television.
 
Rick
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