Author Topic: Lopsy Lu or Working Man (Read 173 times)

terryc · « **on:** April 26, 2008, 03:39:45 AM »

OKay I have these picture frames where a vinyl album fits nicely so I can change them regular with my old collection so today I decide to change them and I dig out 'If This BAss Could Only Talk' and I thought I would give it a listen.
Then it struck me after all these years..the two compositions are the same but in different keys.
Artistic licence???
Am I the only one or has anyone else noticed this??

Bradley Young · « **Reply #1 on:** April 26, 2008, 10:03:36 AM »

Huh.

The similarity is definitely there. Crazy.

I suspect serendipity.

hieronymous · « **Reply #2 on:** April 26, 2008, 04:08:43 PM »

Wait a sec - in the liner notes it refers to the song as one of the badly needed updates on the 'fusion' genre by one of its founders ('Workin' Man,' a post-Zeppelin version of Stanley's 1974 composition 'Lopsy Lu')... so it would seem to be intentional.

It's not unheard of for an artist or composer to rework one of their compositions and give it a completely different title. The only example I can think of is a tune on King Crimson's Beat album that incorporates part of a song from the Discipline album (but since I don't currently own either on CD I can't look them up...) - not the best example but the only one I can think of right now!

David Houck · « **Reply #3 on:** April 27, 2008, 08:57:07 AM »

Another example, Charlie Parker's cover of Cherokee and his later tune Ko-Ko.

jazzyvee · « **Reply #4 on:** April 27, 2008, 04:00:34 PM »

Bob Marley & The Wailers, Peter Tosh and Bunny Wailer did that on a number of their songs. In fact they did many versions of their older tracks as the years went by. Some even renamed too.

Jazzyvee

lbpesq · « **Reply #5 on:** April 27, 2008, 05:33:09 PM »

The bridge of Buffalo Soldiers has always sounded the same to me as the theme from the old kid's show The Banana Splits.

Bill, tgo

darkstar01 · « **Reply #6 on:** April 27, 2008, 09:06:58 PM »

if you're going to talk about jazz, the whole idea accounts for a huge part of traditional jazz history. donna lee was back home in indiana, any rhythm changes tune is i got rhythm, 26 -2 is confirmation, countdown is based off of tune up, prince albert is all the things you are. so on and so forth. hence the death of jazz.

terryc · « **Reply #7 on:** April 28, 2008, 08:31:10 AM »

Add to that ornithology was how high the moon
I don't jazz has died?? maybe it took a sabbatical but stil enjoyed by everyone

jazzyvee · « **Reply #8 on:** April 28, 2008, 09:49:39 AM »

bill I thought that when I first heard it, and thats what i hear everytime i listen to the track..hahaha.

Jazzyvee

fluke · « **Reply #9 on:** April 29, 2008, 03:55:02 PM »

Jeez,I thought Rush Working Man.NO way.Actually never hear Zep's version,havent been able to find it,yet.

hieronymous · « **Reply #10 on:** April 29, 2008, 05:23:51 PM »

We're talking about a Stanley Clarke tune called Working Man that is based on another of his tunes called Lopsy Lu. The Zeppelin reference is to the style of the new version, not to any song that Zep actually recorded. It's not even a particularly heavy version, that's just what the person who wrote the liner notes (Ivan Bodley - never heard of him) came up with.

One weird Zep cover I can think of is Frank Zappa playing the riff from Whole Lotta Love in the guitar solo called Duck Duck Goose from L?ther, the complete version being known as Leather Goods which also has the riff from Dazed and Confused - the reason I bring this all up is because Frank is the one who said, on the classic album Roxy and Elswhere, that Jazz isn't dead, it just smells funny.

(Message edited by hieronymous on April 29, 2008)

darkstar01 · « **Reply #11 on:** April 29, 2008, 11:13:40 PM »

you should hear the Bad Plus play immigrant song. or just anything, because they're pretty much amazing.

Author Topic: Lopsy Lu or Working Man (Read 173 times)

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