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dadabass2001

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« Reply #15 on: June 24, 2008, 09:54:11 PM »
Nooo  Duuude ... I'm with the band. (holds up a broken drumstick) See?
 
 
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« Reply #16 on: June 24, 2008, 11:35:30 PM »
i went back to pick up my practice gear tonight. the guy had nothing to say, even tried to shake my hand... so i said ya know i just dont get it but whatever it was i dont know why nobody said anything... no reply
on my way out i said i hope you snd the other scumbags are happy. he said good luck- i said f u
some were pocket tunes and some werent. for the most part i played appropriately and if you dont like my slow runs on my girl? say so.
the only hint i got was monday when my mailman- the drummer- ps no xmas gift this year- said we gave you the originals to work from- right- i worked em- and sometimes i stayed with it and sometimes i took a liberty to play something i thought was better.maybe some were out of place in their opinion.. but thats their issue.  
so when i got a call today from a band looking for a bass player for a cover band
what are you looking for?
this is how i play.....
my favorite line is and i said this to those guys'
thanks for writing the tune,now its open to interpret it,,,,
my deepest regret? i dont get to play jenny 867.5309 anymoe- btw is that classic rock?

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« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2008, 02:47:21 AM »
flax..so the band gave you the originals and it had to sound exactly they way it is on the recording. Well If I want to hear the exact sound then I will stay at home and listen to the CD but I don't, I go to see bands to see their interpretation of the song.Okay lets not get confused here we are not talking about turning a classic into a free bebop jazz jam with dischords, odd meters but just to hear it played with a different flavour.
What a bunch of a***holes they must be, but I guarantee that 99% of us on this forum have been in bands like that. Good riddance.

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« Reply #18 on: June 25, 2008, 05:34:11 AM »
thats part of the business, ive been in fist fights because this same shit & now i keep a Base-ball bat in my basscase!

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« Reply #19 on: June 25, 2008, 06:59:17 AM »
thats part of the business, ive been in fist fights because this same shit & now i keep a Base-ball bat in my basscase!
 
I keep a Glock...pop a cap in them fu**kers that say Im playing too much than keep on groovin....
 
 
(Im kidding)....

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« Reply #20 on: June 25, 2008, 07:20:42 AM »
Jeff, I think you might have HIT the nail on the head when you said they basically used me to cover the 3 gigs they had. If being busy was the problem I would've thought they'd said something sooner.
I wouldn't give it any more thought. You're better off without these guys (who need some H.I.T, Honesty, Integrity and Truth.)
 
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« Reply #21 on: June 25, 2008, 10:36:49 AM »
Jeff--
 
I agree with Terry's post (518).  I personally don't see much value in note for note renditions of the original, either. I also think Olie may have hit the nail right on the head--it appears to me that they were just using you for their own purposes.  
 
Good luck to you--I'm sure the right bunch of people/band situation will come up for you, so don't give up!
 
Eric
 
(Message edited by alemberic on June 25, 2008)

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« Reply #22 on: June 25, 2008, 03:34:23 PM »
Hmmm, well, I do see value in playing original tunes note-for-note if that's the way the songwriter wants it.  I try to respect the writer and get input if I start to diverge or play anything odd.  My band has a dozen or so good tunes and the guitarist is the writer.  In spite of the fact that he teaches guitar, he's not much on theory so I tend to throw some theoretical ideas out for bass lines and chord changes when things are still in flux.  I am always cognizant that the song is his brainchild and try to stay true to his vision.
 
That said, every situation is different.  Am I coming in as a full and equal member of the group, or added on as a bass player to an established group where equality can come down the road?  Does my view of the situation match theirs?  If I want to stamp my style onto the tunes and they want at least an approximation of a note-for-note rendition, then maybe this is the wrong situation.  Who knows...
 
As far as the used me to cover three gigs comment, I don't know.  I suppose they could have used you like that because you had a pulse and could play while they continued to look for someone they liked better.  If that's what happened, it's wrong on so many levels.  When you first hooked up with them, I thought I remember you posting that it was a decent bunch of guys and a happy environment.  If they wanted to bring you in just for a while to see if it would work, it wouldn't have been so bad if they were up front about it.  Sure doesn't seem like they were, though.  
 
Additionally, one can never know if the reason they gave you for splitting is the actual reason.  Especially with them being so closed-mouthed about it now, you have to wonder if there is maybe another reason they aren't comfortable talking about.
 
In any case, it doesn't matter now except as a learning experience to help you have a better outcome from your next band situation.  Good luck with it!
 
-bob

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« Reply #23 on: June 25, 2008, 11:02:32 PM »
bob
of course i agree that if you are playing originals with the writer- you play it as he wants it played- duh....
as for the final answer? here is the posting from craigslist
 
Gigging classic rock band (Beatles to Maroon 5) is currently holding auditions for a bass player. We are all 40+ have day jobs but practice once a week and gig out about 3 times a month. We are looking for a bass player who fits in and is able to play basic bass lines, we play covers only and stay fairly close to the original recordings
   
now if they would have just said this....
trust me guys- in most cased what i played was better than the original./.. guess not in their opinion- so........
f em -they arent musicians- theyre replicants
oh--- i answered the ad under a bogus email address
might as well have some fun...
i am not a beer drinker- guess i didnt fit in

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« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2008, 06:49:18 AM »
One of my bands plays several of my originals.  I'm the writer and lead singer on these tunes.  I DON'T tell the other guys what to play note-for-note.  I respect that my friend on bass has a better sense of the bass than I do.  Of course if he comes up with something that just doesn't work IMHO, (an EXTREMELY rare occurrence), I'll say something.  Otherwise I enjoy the group dynamics in bringing a new song up from infancy to gig-ready adulthood.  If you want me in a band where someone else directs what I play note-for-note, pay me.  If it's for fun, no dictatorships for me.  Hang in there Flax.  Find yourself a Dead/Jam band that appreciates a bass player that understands outside the box isn't poisonous territory.
 
Bill, tgo

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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2008, 03:08:24 PM »
Flax,
If you were in my town I'd be happy(overjoyed) to find a creative soul with some gear...communication (especially the small stuff) makes the good things happen.You deserve a band that isn't afraid to talk about their/your/the music.  
 
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« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2008, 06:45:51 PM »
HAVE ALEMBICS
WILL TRAVEL

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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2008, 06:55:55 PM »
I posted a rant on craigslist sbout rebelling against the madness.....
should i jerk their string and reply for an sudition i will not show up for via my notmyname email address and have some vindictive fun?
 
last comments on this
i have a stylr- its mine- i hope its unique
f em!
their loss and i dont have to play a billy joel tune- i will never play cant get enough of your love EVER!snd no more american band.

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« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2008, 07:10:11 PM »
Flax:
 
I wouldn't waste my time screwing with them.  Negative energy is still energy expended.  They ain't worth it.  Forward!
 
Bill, tgo

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« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2008, 08:14:24 PM »
...what Bill said, yup I agree,100 percent positively  
 
I've been through alot this last year, sometimes all I had was positive thoughts to get me through...seeds will grow...I'm still here(woohoo!!!)