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« on: November 18, 2011, 11:52:21 AM »
I have a Modulus Blackstar 6 string guitar made in 1988 in near mint cond. but I don't know much about it and there seem to be some folks here who might. It is a bolt on neck and sounds and plays fantastic. However, I do not know what the tone control does. It seems to act like the tone control off an Eric Clapton strat in that it adds gain while changing tone. The EMG circuit is an active one. Anyone know what it really does?  I bought this from the original owner who custom ordered it in 1988 and then left it in a closet. It is in beautiful shape. I do not know why the 3 pups are so close, but they give a fairly wide tonal range. I wonder how many were made. There is not much info about them on the Internet. Thanks,  Dave



 



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« Reply #1 on: November 18, 2011, 11:58:16 AM »
Dave. Glad to see you picked that one up. I thought about it for a sec, and saiddo I really need another guitar? Good for you!

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« Reply #2 on: November 18, 2011, 03:07:12 PM »
 
 
 
   Beautiful guitar, that must have been a custom ordered pickup placement.
 Congrats!
 
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« Reply #3 on: November 18, 2011, 03:10:24 PM »
Yes, the 3 switches turn the pickups on or off. The 'tone' control affects all the pickups but does not function like a regular tone control. There is a circuit board mounted on top of it too.

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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2011, 03:15:49 PM »
Ha!...you caught me mid-edit...I just saw that micro board. I remember those being popular in the eighties , some were mid boosts, some were expanders. Is there any part numbers on that tiny board?

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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2011, 04:30:14 PM »
This is the Bob Weir model blackknife. But, I'm pretty sure the ones he's got have a neck-thru TBX style neck. As far as the electronics go, the board looks similar to the one on my '88~ while mine also has a passive hf tone roll off, this is an active 'gain' where the caps seem to accentuate a mid 'hump' as you turn it up. I guess it is similar to the Clapton strats from the same era.

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« Reply #6 on: November 19, 2011, 12:27:14 PM »
You've got most of the facts on this guitar.  Bob Weir and Phil Lesh  mostly played Modulus during the 80's into the 90's.  Bob Weir was a major investor in Modulus during the 90's.  The unusual pickup placement was inspired by Bob's main guitars which where through-body.  The active tone control is probably an EMG SPC which is a presence/mid-boost control.  EMG had a number of different models that all has similar configuration (one is a midrange cut, another is a straight gain, etc).  It will say which one it is on the PC board if you look closely for markings.
 
If you look closely at the EMG logo on the pickups, you may see that they are different colors.  Back then EMG coded the models using different colored logos.  A silver logo is an EMG-S, a gold is EMG-SA, and there are white, blue, and red models at well which all have different coils and built-in EQ.  Some of these guitars with the three close pickups are built with EMGs that are custom wound for Modulus.  They sometimes have handwritten stickers on the back of the pickup.  If there's a printed label with a production code back there, it's a regular pickup.
 
I remember seeing some of Bob's guitars at Modulus in for fretwork back in those days.  Some of the later ones had some very unusual stuff - there were blocks of rare metals that were inlayed into the back of the headstock, Roland controllers, etc.
 
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« Reply #7 on: November 21, 2011, 02:45:27 PM »
Yes, the circuit board has tiny letters that say SPC on it. The pickups are silver letter EMG's. I just put new strings on it, so it will have to wait till I change them to examine the underside of the pickups. What does EMG-S mean? How does the mid-boost control work I wonder? It does get louder and meaner when the tone control is turned up.
 
Thanks, Dave

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« Reply #8 on: November 21, 2011, 03:25:25 PM »
Lucky me, I found a website with the answers to my questions
 
http://www.guitar.com.au/pickups/emg/Specs.html
 
Thanks,
Dave

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« Reply #9 on: November 21, 2011, 07:11:11 PM »
Play her in good health, Dave.
 
I don't know what your opinion is of the EMGs, but my Modulus is begging for a set of Alembic Activators!

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« Reply #10 on: November 22, 2011, 11:16:52 AM »
I like the sound of the guitar. It gets a nice bluesy growl going for lead and has many great rhythm sounds out of the 3 oickups. I installed a trem lock on it last night so it won't flutter when I rest my hand on the bridge. It does not sound like a Strat but has it's own sound.
 
Can you post a pic of your instrument here?
 
Thanks,
Dave

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« Reply #11 on: November 22, 2011, 01:53:32 PM »
Good to meet you last weekend, Dave. Have a good time in Corvallis this weekend!
 
 
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« Reply #12 on: November 22, 2011, 01:54:58 PM »
Good to meet you last weekend, Dave! have a good show in Corvallis this weekend. How many oickups does this guitar have? LOL!!
 
 
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« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2011, 03:06:23 PM »
The SPC is still in production (it's probably been around for 25 years now!):
 
http://www.emgpickups.com/products/category/144/4
 
If you go to the Product Data Sheets area at the lower right of that page, you can download the installation sheet which shows what it's doing.  The idea here is that it makes more of a humbucker tone from a single coil sound.
 
The S one of the earliest EMG pickups, and it's still in production too:
 
    http://www.emgpickups.com/products/index/47/7/1
 
This is the model with ceramic magnets and is the brighter pickup in the EMG Strat line.  
 
Good stuff and lots of options these days if you want to make a change!  Depending on what kinds of sounds you like, you might consider changing one to an SA or SAV (these are warmer alnico magnet pickups, and the SAV has polepiece magnets).  Of course, there's an amazing variety of boutique passive pickups out there these days too.
 
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« Reply #14 on: November 24, 2011, 10:43:45 AM »
And of course, there's always Alembic Activators ;)
 
The one thing to consider, if you did go the passive route, is that the single coil router template on these guitars excludes the 'v' wedge on the bridge/treble side of the coil~ most passive pups make use of this space to terminate the leads of the coil.