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mario_farufyno

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« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2013, 01:44:11 PM »
If lows are the bones (the structure of a tone), low-mids are the flesh and give Bass its body. Many bassists, specially in metal, take off all mids to open space to vocals and guitars. This can be effective in bigger sound systems, but smaller cabinets simply can't reproduce frequencies below 65Hz. So, you suck all life out of the Bass if you doesn't let any mids to go through. They can help one to feel the missing frequencies, making the Bass being heard more easily.
 
I solved this issues with a good and loud Bass Amp. Now Bass tone always feels right to me and any issue regarding people hearing me is sound tech issue or the house (if they doesn't are equiped to sell music to public). Now we have transformless class D amps and neodimiun speakers that let a bassist have a powerfull, but tiny and light gear at our disposal. Not as pleasant as gigantic tube amp classic stacks but very effective.
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« Reply #16 on: April 01, 2013, 01:22:27 PM »
I went ahead and set-up my ProSonus 16.4.2 so that I can easily switch between live and studio use... so the Behringer board is now out of the equation.  Changing to my ProSonus seems to have taken care of my problem. The compressors in the GT10B are really not good, so I ordered a MXR M87... I think that will tame my input signal.  I have PLENTY of power-amp and my cabinet is an El-Whappo Jr (a GREAT cabinet).

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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2013, 01:35:38 PM »
A quick report on the MXR M87: it's a pretty nifty unit if you're looking for a compressor in a stomp box format.  It's WAAAYYYY more transparent than the compressors in the GT10B and does a nice job of controlling the transients.

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« Reply #18 on: June 07, 2013, 11:27:11 AM »
So I've been using my ProSonus 16.4.2 with no issues regarding headroom.  HOWEVER, I'm getting feedback at WAYYYY lower SPLs than I was with the Behringer board.  The set-up is otherwise identical.  Any explination????

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« Reply #19 on: June 07, 2013, 05:29:56 PM »
Monitor level too loud?
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« Reply #20 on: June 08, 2013, 10:25:49 AM »
No... I noticed this before I ever turned the monitors on.

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« Reply #21 on: June 08, 2013, 10:28:11 AM »
It was also obvious using our usual rehearsal set-up.

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« Reply #22 on: June 08, 2013, 11:03:17 AM »
Check the gain operating level standard for -10dBV  or +4dBU . A simple mechanical switch or pad or software adjustment. Perhaps this will help you . Some where in  the signal chain this might need adjustment.
 
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 http://theartofsound.net/forum/showthread.php?234-What-does-4dBu-output-level-mean-in-terms-of-voltage
 
http://www.gearslutz.com/board/so-much-gear-so-little-time/569548-all-about-proper-recording-levels-saturation-distortion.html

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« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2013, 06:33:55 AM »
If it is feedback, it needs monitoring on (to feed the signal back to PUs). But if it is just distortion/clipping, I'd bet on too hot operational level, like Wolf suggests.
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« Reply #24 on: June 10, 2013, 12:56:12 PM »
Interestingly, there is no switch to change the operating level on either board.  I use the balanced outputs (on both boards) to go to a Behringer DEQ2496 (I use it for the RTA function)and from there to my powered speakers.  The entire signal path is balanced and I don't use any other outboard gear.  I may have found the problem: I did not have my vocal processor (TC Electronic VoiceLive 2) properly trimmed... I think the feedback was coming from that 1 mic.  I ran both boards side by side and I am once again too lound with either one... my wife is thrilled.  I tried to read the references re operating level, but I am illiterate when it come to stuff like that.  Is there an Electromagnetism For Dummies site somewhere?