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hieronymous

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History of the Stanley Clarke small body shape?
« on: July 23, 2008, 11:25:51 PM »
I've been digging around, but haven't been able to find anything concrete about the origin of the Stanley Clarke model or the small body/small standard shape. It gets confusing, between model names (notice no Brown Bass on this page) and electronics and body shapes. Plus, in the history of the body shapes, Stanley Clarke's name isn't even mentioned! (Though there is reference to the small standard shape) He is mentioned in the long version of the Alembic history, but details about what became known as the Stanley Clarke body shape aren't given.
 
Anyone familiar with the history of this shape? Were basses of this shape produced for other people? I know that there are a lot of shapes that I'm not so familiar with, like the peanut guitar and pretzel guitars and basses, so I don't want to make any assumptions.
 
Thanks!

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2008, 04:10:48 AM »
Harry, the same questions that I have.
I like to know what kind of Bass is Stanley playing on this picture?? Looks not as the new Stanley Clarke Signature Bass.
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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2008, 04:47:25 AM »
thats a short scale seriesI he's playing here (1st brown bass),but stanley was playing a gig one night and rick turner bruoght an alembic for him to try out for a few songs that night & stanley fell in love with it instantly. but stanley didnt get a signature model until he became famous with that model (shortscale).....however stanley has several long scale alembics he mostly uses in the studio.... ive played his long scale on stage with him a couple times but his favorites are his shorties!

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2008, 04:53:16 AM »
Exploding into the jazz world in 1971, Stanley was a lanky teenager from the Philadelphia Academy of Music. He arrived in New York City and immediately landed jobs with famous bandleaders such as: Horace Silver, Art Blakey, Dexter Gordon, Joe Henderson, Pharaoh Saunders, Gil Evans, Stan Getz, and a budding young pianist composer named Chick Corea.  
 
All of these musicians recognized immediately the ferocious dexterity and complete musicality the young Clarke possessed on the acoustic bass.  Not only was he expert at crafting bass lines and functioning as a timekeeper in the bass? traditional role, Stanley also possessed a sense of lyricism and melody gained from his bass heroes Charles Mingus, Scott LaFaro, and others, including non-bass players like John Coltrane.  Clarke recognized the opportunity to propel the bass into a viable melodic soloist role and was uniquely qualified to do just that.  
 
The opportunity to state melody and to propel the bass to the front of the concert stage came to fruition when Clarke and Corea formed the seminal electric jazz/fusion band Return to Forever.  RTF was a showcase for each of the quartet?s strong musical personalities, composing prowess, and instrumental voices.  Clarke surmised, ?we really didn?t realize how much of an impact we were having on people at the time.  We were touring so much then, we would just make a record and go back on the road.? The band recorded eight albums, two of which were certified gold (the wildly successful Hymn of the Seventh Galaxy and the classic Romantic Warrior), won a Grammy award (No Mystery) and received numerous nominations while touring incessantly.  And this was a jazz band!
 
Then Stanley, his now famous Alembic bass in hand, fired the shot heard ?round the world?.  He single-handedly started the 1970s ?bass revolution,? paving the way for all bassist/soloist/bandleaders to follow.  In 1974 he released his eponymous Stanley Clarke album, which featured a hit 45rpm ?single? (we?re still talking about jazz here,) titled ?Lopsy Lu.? In 1976 Stanley released School Days, of which the title track is now a bona fide bass anthem.  
 
He acknowledges, quite unboastfully: ?Anyone who seriously wants to learn to play the bass has to buy that record and learn to play that song.?  Aspiring bassists must also master the percussive slap funk technique that Stanley pioneered as well. Stanley saw Larry Graham?s technique (Sly and the Family Stone) and seized upon the idea. He built his facility to a frightening speed, and then adapted it to complex jazz harmonies.  Says Stanley, ?Larry started it, but he had only one lick. I saw him do it, and I took it from there.? Stanley was the first musician to pop over chord changes. ?A lot of guys could jam all day in E, but couldn?t play it over changes.?  
 
Stanley Clarke became the first bassist in history to headline tours, selling out shows worldwide, and have his albums certified gold.  The word ?legend? was used to describe Stanley by the time he was 25 years old.  In 1997 Epic/Sony released: By this tender young age, Stanley was already a celebrated pioneer in fusion jazz music.  He was also the first bassist in history to double on acoustic and electric bass with equal virtuosity, power, and fire.  He had also invented two new instruments: the piccolo bass and the tenor bass.  The piccolo bass, built to his specifications by New York luthier Carl Thompson, is tuned one octave higher than the traditional electric bass guitar.  The tenor bass is a standard Alembic bass tuned up one fourth higher than standard.  With both of these instruments, Stanley?s melodic range is extended for playing in higher registers as he sees orchestrationally fit.  
 
Alembic honored Stanley by offering a signature model Stanley Clarke bass, the first time in the company?s history of making only custom built instruments to do so. Whatever the instrument: acoustic bass viol, electric bass guitar, tenor bass, piccolo bass, acoustic bass guitar, electric upright, or any of the hundreds of axes in his arsenal, Stanley?s musicality and command of these instruments clearly define him as the greatest living bass virtuoso in the world, second to none, hands down, end of discussion.  
 
Now king of the acoustic and electric jazz worlds, in 1981 Stanley teamed with George Duke to form the Clarke/Duke Project.  Together they scored a top-twenty pop hit with ?Sweet Baby,? recorded three albums and still tour to this day.  Stanley?s involvement in additional projects as leader or active member include: Jeff Beck (tour of Japan and Europe, 1978-1979), Ronnie Wood's & Keith Richards? New Barbarians (North American tour, 1979), Animal Logic (with Stewart Copeland, two albums and tours, 1989), The Superband?(with Larry Carlton, Billy Cobham, Najee, and Deron Johnson, 1993-94), The Rite of Strings (with Jean Luc Ponty and Al Dimeola, 1995), Vertu? (with Lenny White, 1999). A much more detailed listing of Stanley Clarke?s bands can be found in Discography.  Clarke has won literally every major award available to a bass player: Grammys, Emmys, every readers? poll out there, all the critics? polls, gold and platinum records, walks of fame- you name it. He was Rolling Stone?s very first Jazzman of the Year, and bassist winner of Playboy?s Music Award for ten straight years.
 
Ever seeking new challenges, in 1985 Stanley turned his boundless creative energy to film and television scoring. Starting on the small screen with an Emmy nominated score for Pee Wee?s Playhouse, he progressed onto the silver screen as composer, orchestrator, conductor and performer of scores for such blockbuster films as: Boys N the Hood, What?s Love Got to Do With It (the Tina Turner Story), Passenger 57, Higher Learning, Poetic Justice, Panther, The Five Heartbeats, Little Big League, and Romeo Must Die. He has even scored a Michael Jackson video release directed by Jon Singleton entitled Remember the Time. Currently his scoring may be heard on the number one rated show for the Showtime Network: Soul Food.  Stanley has become one of the elite in-demand composers in Hollywood. Check out our Film Composer   section.
 
Stanley says that: ?film has given me the opportunity to compose large orchestral scores and to compose music not normally associated with myself.  It?s given me the chance to conduct orchestras and arrange music for various types of ensembles.  It?s been a diverse experience for me musically, made me a more complete musician, and utilized my skills completely.? The 1995 release on Epic Soundtrax (Sony Music): Stanley Clarke At the Movies, bears stunning witness to this. (Stanley promises he will find the time to release an ?At The Movies 2? as well as other recordings from his massive compositional library.)
 
His artistry has spanned classical, jazz, R&B and pop idioms.  He has already succeeded in a multitude of diverse careers, any one of which would be satisfactory to anyone else.  Yet he still pushes on, as invigorated and as passionate about music as that teenage prodigy from Philadelphia with a dream.
 
In 2001, Stanley returned more formally to his initial love: performing, recording, and playing the bass.  The Biography of this incredible musician, like Stanley himself, is a continuing work in process.
 
-Ivan Bodley
New York City
 
Stanley Clarke The Bass-ic Collection, which chronicles this fertile period of his history for the uninitiated.

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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2008, 05:09:49 AM »
There have been some minor changes to the small standard body shape over the years. The older ones are a little flatter on the bottom for one thing. The current Brown Bass is supposed to reflect the older body shape. There has been some previous talk about this in the club but I was unable to locate the threads.
 
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« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2008, 07:45:12 AM »
I always felt a certain sympathy for Stanley - he didnt have as much time basking in the limelight as he deserved once Jaco Pastorius exploded onto the scene with such ferocity!
 
Jaco's virtuosity and compositional /arrangement skills made stanley simply look like a really good player who was goofing around for me. Jaco pushed guys like Stan and Jeff Berlin into also ran stakes as top dog wich was a great shame.
 
Stan was unlucky to share the same period of musical resonance as someone so far advanced he seemed to come from another planet!
 
I have always loved the small body shape of Stans Alembic - it is iconic!
 
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« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2008, 07:50:59 AM »
The bass on the magazine pic is the one featured on the cover of 'If This Bass Could Only Talk'
His very first Alembic was stolen along with his antique acoustic bass in New York which was later recovered but his first Alembic is still missing.
If you notice that one in the pic has his initials inlaid at the end of the body, his first one has them absent.
I had the pleasure of holding one of his basses back in 2000 at the factory(there is a pic of me holding it somewhere on this forum).
Apparently he doesn't request any exotic customisation to either woods or electronics and is quite happy with the 'standard' Alembic sound.
For me personally, he is the one who opened my eyes and ears to bass, no one else played it like Stan, at that time all those rock bassists seemed like novices compared to Stan.
And then Jaco..but that is a volume in itself!!!

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« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2008, 08:01:55 AM »
Same here Terry. Stanley is the guy that made me look at the bass in a whole new light.  
Jaco is one of my favorites but comparing he and Stanley is apples and oranges to me. Totaly different approach to the bass.
 
I met Jeff Berlin in Dallas at a bass clinic at Brook Mays Music back in the 90's. He has a very radical and disciplined approach to bass guitar. A very under appreciated player in my opinion.
 
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« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2008, 10:14:43 AM »
The small standard body style predated Stanley's Alembic days (buy how much, I'm not sure).  Susan (If I recall correctly) told me the body shape was influenced in part by the Gibson SG/EBO body.

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« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2008, 04:14:22 PM »
Thanks for the various insights everybody! Stanley is definitely a bass/music god for me - I love Jaco too, but as far as I go they are apples & oranges as far as one being better than the other.  
 
bassman10096 - the comment about the small standard body being influenced by the Gibson SG/EB0 blows me away! I have always loved that shape, and I have a perverse love for those old Gibson basses...

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2008, 04:19:12 PM »
Keavin,
 
The long scale you played on stage with Stanley....Was it an Omega bodied Series I?  And was it before 2000?
 
Bet you know why I'm asking ;^)
 
Peace,
 
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« Reply #11 on: July 25, 2008, 10:45:49 AM »
yeah it was a long scale standard point body seriesII, this was in 1991 at the circle star theatre in san carlos California........but not (your) bass here LOL!!!

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« Reply #12 on: July 25, 2008, 10:47:30 AM »
do you still have this one???

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« Reply #13 on: July 25, 2008, 11:15:44 AM »
You need somebody who understands sound -- more than sound needs to be understood.
 
This site is the best in the world for me -- No kidding people. It feels my heart deeply, to have people who love real tools and real art. GOOD JOB ALEMBICANS!

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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2008, 11:29:41 AM »
John
 
Strangely when I was younger both Stan AND Jaco were the men,neck and neck all the way, but when Jaco died it seemed to become all about Jaco, which I think is sad for both of them. My experience at the time was that Stanley seemed to appeal more to the bassist in the street as opposed to the real jazzheads.  
 
I actually bought the Brown Album and Jaco's debut on the same day (well I bought the Jaco one and my dad bought me Stanley's). I was expecting to like Jaco better as I'd heard so much about him. However the Brown Album stayed on my turntable nonstop, and I hardly listened to Jaco's at all for a long time after the first listen. Stan did it for me big time. I respect Jaco absolutely, but I'm a bigger fan of Stan, even now.