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sonicus

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« Reply #15 on: March 08, 2016, 06:55:32 AM »
Actually I have had good and bad experiences with lending out equipment but I have not been ask to lend out a musical instrument per se without my being in the presence of it being played .  
 
Not that long ago I was at a gig and I was ask by a keyboard player if a bass player who I did not know could sit in on one tune . This bass player had a big belt buckle , rings on both hands and chains on his neck and there was no way that I would have handed my Alembic Bass to him regardless of who he was, thirty years ago I would have felt peer pressure to do so but now I know better . I said  no___ as politely as possible and made a joke about my self and problems with my OCD !  He answered with a smile and said  no worries . it's ok .  
 
 I lent out some DOLBY SR equipment a while ago to a most gracious individual once who ask to pay rent per diem for the equipment. I was happy to do so ! ______ 30 years ago I had not developed a good ability yet of making a good judgement of whom to lend to and who not .I was inept to that then .    
 
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« Reply #16 on: March 08, 2016, 07:12:25 AM »
First (and last) time I loaned a quality piece of gear to a friend:
 
The lead singer for the first band I was in during high school decided to learn guitar so he could back me up on the 2-guitar material we were doing. He got himself a decent brand new SG - which he babied and wouldn't let anyone else touch - but had no amp.
 
Since I had two, a Music Man HD 130 and a Fender Quad Reverb (both in like-new condition), I offered to loan him the Quad until he could get his own amp.
 
I figured since he was beyond meticulous with his guitar, my amp would be treated with the same respect.
 
Wrong.
 
A few weeks after he started using the amp, I noticed that one of the control knobs was busted in half, the grill cloth had acquired several small tears and stains and the tolex was looking a little rough.
 
When I commented on the damage, he replied Hey what's the big deal? It still works, man. You're way too anal about your gear - it's a working tool and it's gonna get beat up.
 
End of loan and, shortly thereafter, end of my involvement with band.

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« Reply #17 on: March 08, 2016, 08:09:10 AM »
I've loaned gear before, mainly to students and former students.  One student took my Yamaha BX-1 to Europe.  My electric upright has been loaned to students and friends.
 
No one has asked to borrow my Alembic.  I think I would allow that, if I was at the gig.
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« Reply #18 on: March 08, 2016, 09:17:13 AM »
Sonicus's history about the bass player with the big belt buckle and rings made me remember when I started studying guitar, waaaay back then in the very early 80s, the was a time when the same teacher had to put together both the Classical (where I was then) and Electric (Where I wanted to be!) Guitar classes at the same time, in the same classroom. We early teen kids on Classical training admired the slightly older guys with their electrics, and asked them for tips and licks we could try (mostly unsuccessfully) on our nylon strings. But there was a lot of a comrade thing to it, as some of them weren't able to do some of the lessons we had to. I specially remember one guy they called The crazy little one, which had a cream colored, maple neck 70s 3-screws neck joint strat with a few cigarette burns in the headstock. It was the first strat I ever played, and I still remember how amazed I was at how it felt, and how easier to play it seemed compared to my Nylon-strung Giannini. Anyway, the guy was a charm to talk with, and was eager to let me play on his strat every now and then, unless one of his friends, who had a black Gibson Les Paul (A Custom, if I recall correctly), all shiny and all. This guy would play this guitar with extreme caution, had towels everywhere not to scratch it, only once I saw some other guy playing it with this guy literally over the other, telling him to avoid making any skin contact with the guitar body, because it can develop stains. It was the pre-MTV era back then, but I had seen more than enough of players who were not that neurotic about this, and immediately thought there must be something wrong with this guy. 30-something years after I think... Why, then, would he even bother to bring this guitar to a class full of teenagers? Why even taking it out of the house, if he would spend so much time and energy by NOT having it touched? How would he do when actually having to play it? I've never heard of this guy ever again... and some of the other guys even became somewhat famous around here. Still to this day, I have not seen anybody as obsessed with not touching the guitar's finish as that guy. Not that I would play my Alembic wearing a big, bulky belt buckle (sounds like a tongue twister!) myself, while swinging the instrument all over as I play... But there are extremes, in every situation, for almost anything, I guess...

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« Reply #19 on: March 08, 2016, 10:20:54 AM »
Yamaha BX1 = Cool!
 
All you got to do is let them understand that you expect the loan of their wife in exchange.
 
Works like a charm...

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« Reply #20 on: March 08, 2016, 10:49:40 AM »
That wife thing may not be a good deal, be careful what you trade for.
 
I ask for a $10,000 deposit if anyone ask to borrow anything. That tends to settle things.
 
Just keep in mind, Prince sat in with the Roots recently, borrowed a vintage guitar from the regular guitarist, and decided to smash it to bits. Not cool and a warning for all.  If the player is a Pro Player, he should not have to ask to borrow your gear, he should have backups.

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« Reply #21 on: March 08, 2016, 11:12:36 AM »
Most  players and owners of vintage guitars have an emotional connection with their instruments and therefore the loss of said instrument will cause emotional hardship.  
 
Here is a question for the  lawyers in our forum ; is emotional hardship  grounds to claim punitive damages in a law suit ?  Therefore replacement value of the instrument plus emotional/punitive damage could be claimed in such a law suit, Is that correct ?  My question is hypothetical and will consider any response as well .    Theory of jurisprudence and legal precedent in such matters if you will .
 
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« Reply #22 on: March 08, 2016, 11:46:15 AM »
My Alembic only goes to places with me firmly attached to it....or I will demonstrate WadoKai Kihon Nos 1 to 5 along with a few techniques from when I did Taekwon Do for 20 years!

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« Reply #23 on: March 08, 2016, 11:56:17 AM »
Unless we are talking a Fender P bass, which has been known to survive head on collisions with docking aircraft carriers and has been used to hit home runs on the field with major league baseball teams.

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« Reply #24 on: March 08, 2016, 03:55:36 PM »
Speaking of all this,  
 
hey, Jazzy! When are you going to return the Series II I loaned you?
 
:-)

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« Reply #25 on: March 09, 2016, 05:47:53 AM »
Never, I guess you can keep the deposit though..... :-)
The sound of Alembic is medicine for the soul!
http://www.alembic.com/info/fc_ktwins.html

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« Reply #26 on: March 11, 2016, 12:43:37 PM »
No Pauldo.  It happened.  The 'improvement' was undone but still

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« Reply #27 on: March 11, 2016, 01:43:57 PM »
I loaned a mid 70's Rogers holiday snare to a friend of my son.  
It's been 2 years and I cannot get the guy to return it.  
Never again. You wanna play, get your own gear!
“Commitment is what transforms a promise into reality.”
Abraham Lincoln

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« Reply #28 on: March 11, 2016, 01:51:49 PM »
I loaned a mid 70's Rogers Rock kit snare to a friend of my son.  
It's been 2 years and I cannot get the guy to return it, or any of my calls or messages.  
 
Never again! You wanna play, get your own gear!
 
slawie
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