Author Topic: So who is LES PURNEL anyway?  (Read 548 times)

smichaels

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« Reply #15 on: August 29, 2004, 05:49:31 PM »
The Les Purnell bass was at the Queen City Guitar Show in Charlotte, NC...I spotted it today. It had a $1200 price tag on it. I busted the owners chops about it in front of another potential customer - he got very upset with me. He still had it up for sale as an Alembic when I left. I complained to the shop putting on the show and they indicated they would talk to the dude selling the bass. He's actually a local guy here in NC.

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« Reply #16 on: August 29, 2004, 06:06:44 PM »
Since they have been informed by the ultimate authority that the bass is not an Alembic, that they would be guilty of fraud for selling it as such.  There is no longer any possibility that this is an honest mistake.  I wonder what rights to legal action Alembic has in this case?
 
Are they a real dealer with a storefront that can be identified?
 
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2004, 01:53:48 PM »
I contacted the place originally selling the bass and they said that they bought it as part of a collection and were told that it was an Alembic.  They were apparently irritated with the seller and returned it for a refund.  I offered them $800 for it as a copy with no power supply and they said that they paid more than that for the bass and were returning it.

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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2004, 11:58:51 AM »
Wow, what a checkered history. Glad I posted it. The bad thing is, on outward appearance (their web picture of just the body) it sure looked like an Alembic Series I.  
 
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2004, 12:33:10 PM »
The Fernandez copies of the Alembic bass were VERY close to the original.  There are some little things to check though.  On the headstock, there is usually no logo.  On the later Fernandez versions, there is a Fernandez logo.  The neck laminates or stringers are a little wider than Alembic used.  The finish tends to be a little browner.  The Alembics that they are copying are more yellow than brown.  The pickup selector knob is a bit different too. When you open up the control cavity, that's where the major differences can be seen.  Although the controls and electronics work the same, the electronics are not up to the Alembic standard.  The cavity was painted with a black paint instead of the shielding paint Alembic uses.  The pots are not stamped Alembic, and the wiring is usually very sloppy too.  
 
But, to see a picture of the bass, or to the untrained Alembic lovers like us, it can be hard to tell.  I have seen one floating around here in New Orleans that I know was sold as a real one at some point.  It even had the Alembic logo that someone put on the headstock.  Pity.

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« Reply #20 on: August 31, 2004, 12:42:46 PM »
Thanks for the history lesson, Michael. I find this stuff fascinating. It's almost like techno-archaeology. There are other branches of collecting where people have to date or determine origin of pieces by looking at rivet heads, paint type, patent dates, etc - you really have to be a scholar to know what it is you are looking at.
 
I don't think I've ever seen a Fernandes of a non-Alembic shape and because of their behavior, I don't think I would buy anything of theirs if they are in business still. It says something about the Japanese business model of that particular time. Rickenbacker copies were the same problem.
 
Did you (or someone) say that all the Fernandes copies were medium scale, zebrawood models?
 
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« Reply #21 on: August 31, 2004, 01:44:26 PM »
I think these guys are still in business!  But, of course, they do not copy Alembic anymore.  After they made their Alembic copies, (which were VERY few by the way) they were selling their usual line of Fender copies, but some had the Alembic Series 1 electronics copies installed.  I guess they had to do something with the left over parts!
 
The Alembic copies they made came in long and in short scale.  They were all zebrawood.  the long scale instruments had the large Alembic with a point shape.  The short scales were the standard small body shape.  I have not heard of any medium scales that they made.  The pickups that were available on their Alembic copies came in 2 colors. Black and cream.  

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« Reply #22 on: August 31, 2004, 02:02:03 PM »
OK, it looks like we only need to look out for zebrawood ones.  
 
Sounds like the dealer has done the right thing in returning it to the collector, but hopefully if this thing shows up on Ebay nobody will be fooled.  
 
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« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2004, 04:37:36 PM »
Actually Fernandes did make an Alembic style in a non-alembic shape called the Masterhand.  It was a very cool strat/hippie sandwich shape.  I have a masterhand guitar that is currently in Gary Brawer's shop getting Alembic electronics, RMC individual bridge pickups and a 13 pin jack to use with my Roland GR 33 Guitar synth.  Here is a link to a picture of a bass Masterhand, along with the Fernandes Alembic copies: http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:ANlcLKc6oQUJ:www8.plala.or.jp/alembic/copy_gallery.html+fernandes+%22master+hand%22&hl=en
 
By the way, the guitar version looks much bettter than the bass version (IMHO)
 
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