FS: Mark King 5 w Custom Body

[bob]

Nigel, it's just fascinating to sit here (in warm, sunny CA) and watch your mind working.
 
And thanks for the reminder, don't think I've listened to Aqualung in over a year (though I'm thinking Locomotive Breath).
-Bob
 
(I know, I still owe you an email response, but things have been crazy - too busy to write, as you said.)

[poor_nigel]

Yo Bob!  Ya, my mind is grinding away, all right.  I need to go 'bad' and take bonehead English  I couldn't even get that part right.  All my life I heard such nice things about getting old, but the bottom line is that it pretty much sucks.  
 
Rubbing it in about the CA sun?  It is suppose to get down to @ 33 degrees - like right now.  Whoa, tomorrow's high will be 70!  It hasn't been that high in a while.  Soon that will lose a digit and be 7 degrees, then dip into the negatives at -7, and then hang at around -27 degrees or so for a while.  We get wind chill factors of -60 here in the Wasteland.  I imagine it gets worse farther north into Canada.
 
I used to really get off when it got cold enough in Sacramento that a thin layer of ice would form on the water in the gutters there.  Running around breaking it up barefoot was fun as a kid.  However, my barefootin' days seem to be over now.  
 
Don't worry about owing anything.  My 84 hour weeks are coming soon.  Right now I am off a lot, and bothering everyone!  

[gare]

Nigel
We're not getting 'old', we're getting 'older'.
(has a nicer sound to it)
You got your cabinets together ? Any pix ?
It's already getting into the high 30's in the midwest too.
G

[poor_nigel]

Hey Gare.  It is too cold here already to reopen my shop to work wood.  I figure the cabs will take 80 to 100 hours to build (The 21's and the 10's), which means a month or more, since I still work a day job.  So I will not start until after spring thaw here - Around April.  

  I re-cut these JBL 718 (above) to fit the 21's.  I bought these from some kid in Texas and UPS beat them to death, so I had to do the entire interior in 2x2's to make it solid again.  The 18" are near mint, but I have no use for them at all now.    

  I used some JBL 10s I already had in cabs for the mids.   Since the 718 cabs are too small for the P. Audio 21's, I have not really cranked them up, and I figured I only needed half the 10's for medium volume.  So I used the pair above in the black painted oak cabs.  Oak has a nice warmth for mids and highs are clear.  Here is something that will bring up a subject that Bob was discussing a while ago, plus a point I read in a thread that interested me.  I tri-amped these and used a couple of the 2" drivers/lenses.  I usually use a real-time spectrum analyzer to set up new speaker combinations for the first time to get amp and equalizer levels in the ball park, but did it manually this time.  I set the mids to crossover at 300 and the highs to cross at 6K.  Then I plugged in the brown bass and went at it, fiddling as I went.  The only time anything came out of the horns (I turned all the others off) was when I slapped or screwed up, and it was just noise that I would not want coming through the system, anyway.  Note:  I had to max the horns amp to hear this.  I tried harmonics and nothin.'  Therefore, I am going to have to agree with Bob that anything over 6,000 Hz is simply unneeded.  Therefore, the four drivers and lenses I bought will probably be sold off, too.  I wonder what frequency Eden and the other companies that use a horn are crossing it over at?  I am sure the JBLs have a higher frequency range than the 10's they are using, thus the addition of the quacker horns in their cabs.  Note: I set the highs to crossover at 6K and turned the horns off, and slapping and harmonics sounded great.  The cool part!  I read in a thread that someone was using the crossover point of the mids in their bi-amped rig to shape tone.  Well, it works great!  I had never thought of this before.  Before it was what the analyzer sees, is what I get.  I like this new trick!

[gare]

Most of the specs I've seen from the biggie manufacturers, the crossover is around 3K.  The internal crossovers that is.
According to JBL's site, the 2012H's go to 7k and the E110 to 8K.
Nice cabinets..how's your back ?
G  

[poor_nigel]

So now we go back to the old age subject; specifically my senility.  You are correct.  I wrongly listed the 2012H's as only going to 5K, when they are actually rated to 7K.  My bottom is getting kinda sore from sitting corrected so much, however, I am glad I am wrong at times.  As for my back, I messed it up lifting a studio grand onto a stage years ago.  If I wear pants that press against the small of my back, I risk staying in bed for a week or two.  If I wear overalls or pants with a stretching waistline, I can still lift half a studio grand, no problem.  However, I use hand trucks these days, and no one travels with a studio grand any more, do they?  If so, let the kids lift it!  
 
I don't really like horns crossed over below 4 or 5K for raw sound.  Too harsh for me.  I suppose having the highs crossed at around 3K is the price for having 10's that extend so low.  Well, not my problem.  I love what I have now, and when the new cabs get built, they will only get better!  
 
(Message edited by poor_nigel on October 01, 2004)

[hollis]

My father tells me old age ain't for wimps..  He's in his mid eighties and is landscaping his 5 acres himself.... well, he and his John Deer.  Hey, considering the alternative, I'll take a little (all right... a LOT) of senility any day..
 
Here's to hand trucks!

[bob]

Nigel, so much for alleged senility - that discussion about the value of bass rigs going beyond 6K must have been almost a year ago by now.
 
I'm still willing to believe that Dave heard something he liked, and that's fine, but aside from slapping and similar string/fret/finger noise, the math just doesn't seem to work out.
 
Thanks for the reassurance... but then, maybe our hearing is just starting to deteriorate, like the rest of us???
 
Nah, just checked - can't hear 20k and haven't for a long time, but 16 is still solid. Don't have a test tone in between, but I'd bet money on at least 17, and on a nice, clear, cold day, maybe even a glimmer of 18 :-)
 
I was thinking about this a short time ago when you were describing your plans, but some things just have to be tried. Thanks for remembering, and sharing your observations.

[David Houck]

Funnily enough, I have high end hearing loss in both ears.

[shakeyeraz]

Somewhere on this thread there's a bass that's still for sale! Really though I'm looking at trying eBay again but I'm open to offers from folks here. And again, thanks to everyone for their advice on selling. Interestingly enough eBay isn't looking too 'Alembic friendly' at the moment but I've been so busy that I haven't really been watching what's happening there.
 
Thanks
k

[jonr1959]

Hi,  
If you are interested in a 6 string, I have a 1990 Elan with macassar ebony top if you are interested.
I can email pictures but should point out that I live in the UK !!
Please let me know if it's worth a look.
 
J

[palembic]

An Elan 6 string!!!
Cool!!!!
Com'on Jonathan ...show us the pictures!!!
 
Paul the bad one
 
o-o ...a Jonathan again ...the place is getting loaded with that breed!

[jonr1959]

Hi there,
 
Here's some pics..........

[shakeyeraz]

hmmmm. email me with any details on the bass and your thoughts on the swap. my email address is in my profile.
Thanks.
k

[jonr1959]

Doh....
Only uploaded one pic, I do have a lot more.Serial number is 90H5747
Fingerboard is macassar ebony too.
 
She's truly lovely but just too narrow string spacing for me.
Single LPF + Q switch
 
 
If anyone wants to know more please email me on jridel@compuserve.com