Buyer Be Warned!

[poor_nigel]

Hey Bill.  I went back to Mr. Mills site and started investigating it.  In my travels, he has a page and it does list the above Hotmail address as the contact point.  Oh well, leave it to Michael to rip someone off and then bring in a lawyer to shut up the victim.  I think I will pop over to my lawyer's office and see if this gets her all excited or not.  If she screams and runs from the room, maybe I will worry a touch.  Otherwise, Michael and his lawyer can just go away!  As long as what I say is the truth, I do not fear anyone.

[bsee]

This is the shopping board, though, right?  Shouldn't someone be offering me a medium scale S1 bass in good shape right about now?

[poor_nigel]

Well, that threat hardly made it out of the gate before it collasped and died.  It seems Michael's lawyer is a criminal lawyer, go figure.
 
(Message edited by poor_nigel on October 22, 2004)

[pookeymp]

Hey Nigel...
 
So you're saying that an actual 'real' lawyer couldn't compose two well-written paragraphs.
 
I wouldn't say this looks like it was written by a high school graduate...because while in high school, my writing skills were way beyond the 'dribble' written in this email. I would say it looks like it was written by someone struggling to get through high school.
 
Mikey/

[poor_nigel]

Hey Mikey.  I was being nice.  I got some e-mails from him and he seems very unprofessional, unknowledgeable, and all intimidation.  I will not let such a person get to me.  On all possible counts of defamation, I can substantiate them to be true.  I have every receipt of payment made, and every e-mail sent and received, including some very strange ones from Mr. Mills that I am sure a lawyer would not want to be brought into a courtroom, for any reason.
 
Truth (formerly called justification): You will not be liable if the defamatory statement is true. The plaintiff is not required to prove that your statement was untrue to establish his or her claim, as the law assumes that defamatory statements are untrue. This means that you, the defendant, bear the burden of proving that the statement was true.
 
I am done trying to deal with Michael.  He can keep digging if he wants.  I am looking forward to the strap Allison is making and will post pics of it for comparison of what I should have received in the first place.  As much trouble as Michael has been in this whole affair, is how helpful she has been.  Now, back to sanity for me.

[poor_nigel]

Holy Insult to Injury!  The idiot at Italia straps just sent me the following:
 
Dear Valued Italia Straps Customer,
 
    Please take a moment to visit our beautiful, newly redesigned website and online store at www.italiastraps.com
 
    Don't forget that Italia Straps is a great place to find a holiday gift for the musician in your life, or for yourself! Gift
    certificates are even available if you are having trouble deciding...
 
As always, we sincerely appreciate your business.
 
Thank You,
 
The Staff at Italia Straps
 
Michael forgot to mention that it is a great place to get ripped off and pick up some decidedly inferior products, too.  He also sent a copy of this to the e-mail address that was attached to the PayPal account that sent him the second payment of Alembic fees, which he just pocketed and has never acknowledged or refunded.  Not only is he a thief, but he is stupid to boot!  
Note:  Alembic did not receive a penny of either payment he received.
 
If the person he thinks owns the account he blatantly stole money from and I are valued customers, I guess his business is about to be flushed.  Hmmm, that seems appropriate.  I am thinking he would be better off working for his lawyer, who specializes in defending wife beaters, drunken drivers, and minor criminals (This is taken from his advertising on his Web site).  What a pair.
 
Note:  The strap Allison made is finished and she is just waiting for the dies from Alembic to stamp the logos with.  Pictures will be posted when it arrives.

[pookeymp]

Like they say, You can tell a lot about a person by the company they keep.  In this case, it's by the lawyer they retain.
 
Hopefully the strap you receive from Allison will be the happy ending to this story.
 
Mikey/

[bluesmann8008]

 
 
(Message edited by valvil on November 03, 2004)

[kungfusheriff]

My, what a lovely way to introduce yourself, by painting a longtime and well-liked member as a crybaby and a perv!
I'll have to remember that. It might be a good way to rid myself of those pesky incisors.
This is not the type of matter I enjoy engaging in, but it is one that I feel must be addressed. Most members of this club have probably read about the split of Moody Straps into Moody Leathers and Italia Leather Straps. I do not want to get into Michael?s and Allison?s personal business, so I will just stick to how I was treated by Michael.
He got burned by a vendor that took his time delivering an item that significantly differed from the customer's order, and which cost more than the initially agreed-upon cost. What's not to understand?
May I assume we're speaking with the Fox News Radio disc jockey?

[lbpesq]

Gregg Bluesmann8008
 
Having a legal background myself.  
 
Might we assume from this that you are not an attorney?  I am, and I am very aware that there are two sides to every story.  I have no personal knowledge about Poor Nigel's strap problem, only what I have read on this site.  I know that the pictures of the strap that were posted look pretty abysmal for an expensive custom strap.  I certainly wouldn't accept such shoddy merchandise.    I also know that use of the Alembic trademark can only be lawfully accomplished with Alembic's permission and that such permission was not given to Michael.  Finally, in my opinion your post is not really appropriate for this site.  Your attack is nothing more than aspersions and character assasination.  Completely uncalled for.  In that regard, you have achieved less than success. The only character that your post calls into question is your own.
 
Bill, tgo

[poor_nigel]

Hey Bill, I am going to have to disagree with you on this person having a legal background.  From a previous post I did: including some very strange ones (e-mails) from Mr. Mills that I am sure a lawyer would not want to be brought into a courtroom, for any reason.  The above post used several of the strange things listed in Mr. Mill's e-mails sent to me.  This is either Michael (fed what to say here by Mills) or his unethical lawyer (Probably so) posting here.  Either way, what an idiotic thing for a lawyer to do!!!  I was wondering when Michael or Mills would show up and defend themselves.  Michael did on other sites, disguised as someone else.  I always posted under the name of Poor Nigel, and left my real contact information in the posts, so others would know I was real and could contact me, including Michael and his lawyer.
 
Oh my goodness!  I posted a thank you to someone on a naughty BBS!!!  I must steal from people, lie continuously, run around pretending to be someone else, have the ethics of a someone who purposely defends scums who do some of the worst acts committed in this country for money, and of course must be a communist!  Well, I am socialistic by nature.  Is that close enough?  
 
My eBay feedback record?  Hey buddies, it stands for itself.  There are a lot of con artists on eBay, and I do give negative feedback when someone rips me off, and without regard for them giving the same in return.  I also use my real identities there, too.  Poor Nigel and real contact information.  Why would anyone think collecting anime and cartoon collectables would be a bad thing?  Something that would show I was a bad person???  Why would anyone list my feedback record, which clearly shows I received only one negative point, and from someone who took my money, sold the item to someone else, and then refused to give my money back.  Hey, neat view!  Thanks for the new trick.  Here is the proper link to my feedback:
 
http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback
 
I will certainly stand behind every action I have committed in my whole life and will atone for all wrongs committed.  Will either of you two?  The only real question here is, why am I defending myself to someone of such low ethics and morals?  You two are such a matched pair.  Bill, this is definitely one of the people that give your profession its bad rep.  Nuff said.  Dang, that phrase was coined by comic book artist, Stan Lee.  I must a slime, as only bad people read comics!
 
Uh oh!  I just noticed that this person referred to me as TK Shaw.  Give me a break!  As any Alembic staff or club member I have contacted via e-mail can attest to, I sign my e-mails TK Shaw.  There is only one obscure post on the club where I used TK Shaw (unnoticeably listed at the bottom of a picture), and you cannot get that information from eBay.  All references to me on all the places this person has been to refer to me as either Thomas K Shaw or tshaw, not TK Shaw.  Note:  I do not 'sign' my e-mails as T. K. Shaw, but TK Shaw.  Gee, who ever posted the fun one above, has obviously received e-mails from me!  Does this guy ever win a case?

[poor_nigel]

Opps, forgot to mention that the strap is done and will be shipped today.  Pictures coming soon!

[pookeymp]

I love how bluesmann8008 says Can we go back to talking about Alembics now?, considering the fact that this is his very first post on this site and he has not contributed to one conversation about Alembics...so what talk of Alembics is it that he wants to get back to?  
 
Mikey/
 
(Message edited by pookeymp on November 03, 2004)

[smokin_dave]

Any halfwit can clearly see that Greg is not interested at all about Alembic's products.It's just character assasination for whatever reason.Just another case of somebody trying to make another feel guilty for and trying to cover up they're own wrong doing.Had to say something after following this thread,Greg's single post to this forum and poor nigel's many informative contributions to this club since I became a member.
Can't wait to see the strap you receive that has been crafted properly.There's nothing like good ol'honesty and integrity.    

[kevin_k]

Sorry to hear about this experience.  
 
Now I too would like to offer my opinion.  I don't want to sling anymore mud around, but what the heck.
 
Bluesmann8008:  You may have a law background, but I am in the credit industry, and you sir are walking on thin ice in regards to your statement about poor nigels credit worthiness.  Someone who does not use credit cards does not translate into no credit, as you have asserted.  Poor Nigel could have a credit score well above 800 and you would have indeed made a false written statement about his credit.  (I now many wealthy, credit worthy people, who do not use credit cards.)  A credit industry standard, is that you only report the facts, anything else could cause big troubles for you.  Any person stating negative information about another person's credit worthiness without being accurate could cause problems.  Here's how:
 
Let's say I want to sell poor nigel a bass guitar.  Now I look at your statement, that indicates he has no credit.  And I choose not to sell to him based on that decision.  You could be accountable for adversely affecting poor nigel's outcome in this situation by falsley making such claims.
 
 
 
By the way bluesmann8008, what type of Olympic do you play?
 
I thought so.
 
No offense to real Alembic brothers and sisters.  You know how you are.