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« Reply #30 on: December 08, 2013, 05:15:49 PM »
Dont take it personal, Scott.  
 
Pierre has often times comes across as a complete prick on this board, but I think it has more to do with the language barrier than anything else... Just tell him that the tailpiece on your bass is off center, and he'll leave you alone....

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« Reply #31 on: December 08, 2013, 09:18:14 PM »
All anything is ever really worth is what somebody else is willing to pay for it.
 
There are no new graphite Series available, and barring some big sea change, there never will be. Ka-Ching . . . .
 
A new, garden-variety Series will run WAY more than this.  Ka-Ching . . . .
 
And you can have this one right now, and to make it even more enticing, it's like new.
Ka-Ching . . .
 
Get on the web and price a few more just like it.  Aren't any to be had.  Ka-Ching . . . .
 
Seems like to me while that's not a small amount of money, for what this is, it seems more than reasonable.  And even if it wasn't, it's his business.  You don't have to like it.  I appreciate he brought it here on offer, though I'm sure he's beginning to wonder why he bothered . . .
 
J o e y

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« Reply #32 on: December 08, 2013, 09:32:47 PM »
I totally agree with Joey (see my thread 432).
 
If all we do is bash people who provide asking prices than no one will ever come forth with this information and both sellers and buyers will end up wasting time.
 
Scott is trying to sell his bass and that's what this thread should be all about..supporting his selling it to someone who will use it and treasure it that way it should be.

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« Reply #33 on: December 08, 2013, 09:44:26 PM »
I concur as well !

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« Reply #34 on: December 09, 2013, 10:32:39 AM »
+1 to the previous 3 posts.
 
I think it's worth every penny and I wish I had the funds to purchase it.

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« Reply #35 on: December 09, 2013, 11:44:05 AM »
If it were a small body short scale I would go for it.  
 
Keith

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« Reply #36 on: December 09, 2013, 10:11:08 PM »
I'm also worn out to this poor-pitiful-me regarding used Alembic prices.  
 
Once you get away from the usual eye-watering resales of 50's Pauls, original korina Explorers and V's, Super 400's, D'Angelico's, etc., all the usual VINTAGE GUITAR suspects, the other 97% of used, serial-production guitars trade hands at reasonable prices.  There's LOTS of old Fenders, Gibsons, Guilds, and so on that don't require a Black AmEx card to buy.
 
And the last time I checked, nobody was selling used Bebensees, Ken Smiths, Warriors, Modulus, ( . . . . . fill in the blank for your 'boutique' guitar or bass here . . . . ) to finance a Master's Degree, new SL, or their piece of a time-share Gulfstream Five.  You can watch used Ritters drop fast enough the oxygen mask pops out of the overhead !
 
The market rises and falls, some things get hot, some things get cold, but usually individual, truly artisan-built and very personalized one-at-a-time axes depreciate like hell:  You just can't get that skill set to build them for minimum wage, the woods and woodwork, the fittings and electronics, there's nothing cheap involved in the build.  That just doesn't translate once it's dropped into this vast sea of used guitars around the world, where everything that makes it so special is just overlooked, underappreciated, and usually just ignored.  And a lot of people aren't educated:  They've seen Carvins and Arias and Ibanez' that are striped neckthrus, swirly-topped, with funny-looking pickups and hardware.  Hell, they just saw a WESTONE at the pawnshop that looked like that.  They just don't know . . . . . 'hey, what's all them knobs for? '
 
It's the market.  I can't tell you how many times I've been in George Gruhn's here in town and watched the usual clueless, more-money-than-brains 'typical guitar collector' walk right past a Collings or Santa Cruz, thinking only a D-Martin or Montana Gibson is worth the money.  I tell you, the real genius of Bob Taylor or P R Smith is they somehow broke through that kneejerk, lockstep mindset in consumers.
 
For me, I love that some doofus will shell out 8 grand for a clapped out 60's Jazz, and they ignore used Alembics:  It's the only way I can afford them !
 
And that brings me to this point:  
 
IF every time you see a used Alembic for sale and involuntarily it comes up your throat 'THAT's too much $$$ !' . . . . then how can you complain the resale value on these things is always too low?  
 
J o e y

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« Reply #37 on: December 10, 2013, 11:58:06 AM »
It's simple, an item for sale is worth what a buyer is willing to pay for it.

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« Reply #38 on: December 10, 2013, 03:31:18 PM »
Amen
Sending emails to 'complain' about the price makes no sense. Do you think it's worth less? Shoot your offer and wait, there are no set rules when someone has an instrument to sell.
 
(Message edited by enzo on December 10, 2013)

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« Reply #39 on: December 11, 2013, 03:02:49 AM »
I'm not personally interested in this bass as it's not a body shape I am keen on but it looks amazing. It is in great shape and no doubt a fantastic instrument. Prices are also dependent on the country so i think for a buyer in the UK I don't think this $8000 US is excessive at all considering the UK price of a brand new Series bass. It's certainly not cheap but these basses are rare to see up for sale in the UK. However buying it from the USA would require VAT and Duty on import into the UK which at around 20% plus which is also payable on the shipping costs. That would put off many buyers here. I guess there may be more competitively priced instruments in the USA that would affect what a buyer was prepared to pay.  
If I was interested in it I'd have no problem paying the asking price if. I couldn't negotiate a good reduction for shipping then I'd fly over to collect it rather than have it shipped over.  
 
All the best with the sale and I hope you get a price you are happy with.  
Jazzyvee
 
(Message edited by jazzyvee on December 11, 2013)
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« Reply #40 on: December 16, 2013, 02:41:35 AM »
It's a very beautiful bass.  
Personally I think posting a price should be included when selling a bass, but that's just my opinion.  
Best of luck with the sale!

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« Reply #41 on: December 16, 2013, 03:29:40 AM »
I agree, moonliner. Another bass site requires the posting of a price with any for sale post to avoid bidding wars and such. It keeps things more civil.

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« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2013, 03:38:44 AM »
et oh... keep quiet guys... I just said I found this 8K excessive (IMO)... forbidden here ?

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« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2013, 08:50:07 AM »
Sometimes I think it's a linguistic issue, then others...not so much.

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« Reply #44 on: December 20, 2013, 09:39:50 AM »
IMO, in somebody else for sale thread, it's not fair express opinions about pricing unless requested by the seller. You could be wrong and influence negatively the sale.  
There's always space for 'polite' emails suggesting market values based on other similar basses sold IF you have interest in the bass and would like to make an offer.
...and yes, even though not a rule, a seller should always set an asking price, again IMO.