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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2006, 07:56:52 AM »
Hi Senny,
I too am glad you're keeping you series I. I believe that most of the folks on this site truely value their instruments. You'll find many have multiple Alembics (I have three). The Ebay pricing phemonenom is a mixed blessing for many younger players who can't afford new instrument pricing (heck I still can't get a series myself), and has been discussed several times before. Several of us have been astounded when seeing old Gibson and Fender prices on the 'bay, yet Alembics don't achieve as much recognition as they deserve.
I'm from about the same timeframe as you and connect with that same past.
With bass lust in my heart,
Mike
"The Secret of Life is enjoying the passage of Time"
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2006, 08:07:15 AM »
We all have to stick together and perserve the traditions that we believe it..We are living in a time where people go to Sunday Mass in sweat pants... don't know how to tie a  necktie...etc..
I am glad i still have my Alembic... when i am ready to let it go, maybe if i am lucky enough to reach the age of 65, i am thinking about giving it to a deserving, worthy, up and coming young bassist that will carry the old school banner into the future, someone that will keep up the fight...nice talking with you guys... you are all very articulate, cool people..

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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2006, 08:13:17 AM »
Senny,
 
You express the opinion of a seller very well, but not that of a buyer. I note that you were given your first Alembic. Most of us had to buy ours with what little we could save up over the years.
 
Many of us on the list are not independently wealthy--and that's what it takes to get a nice Alembic today. Many of us, myself included, play as volunteers in church worship bands, small jazz groups and other, small venues that pay poorly [or not at all]. Our love of basses, music and Alembic must be balanced with mortgages, kid's college education and the high price of autos and gas--since it comes out of our pocket after those expenses.
 
Alembic has maintained the highest standards of craftsmanship, but new custom basses are sold at premium prices. On the used market, Alembics must compete with the likes of Ken Smith, Fodera and others. It's no longer the only name in premium basses. Since one can't generally buy a used bass that is customized to one's personal choice, the price sinks to that of other, similar instruments.  
 
Go to the Alembic website a price a new custom bass for yourself, then ask yourself if you'd be willing to pay it. Or ask yourself what you'd be willing to pay for another Alembic, used. I'll bet you come back with a more balanced attitude.

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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2006, 09:02:36 AM »
My 1981 Alembic was a gift, but the 34 other basses that i own were all purchased by me.. bar gigs,.... sessions, etc.
I spent 10 hours a day practicing from 1978 to 1984-and all my income from 1980 to present was done with bass in hand..
You make great points...all valid...but to answer you questions would i pay today's prices for a current Alembic? yes i would, but right at this moment i don't have the need for another.. I play all the same type of gigs that you do, as well as many more lucrative ones.I make a living playing music.. that means sometimes selling your soul to pay the bills...and i have all the same bills that you do,,, a mortgage, a child college to save for, gas ,yada,yada, yada, and the last time i checked my last name wasn't Gates!

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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2006, 12:55:03 PM »
Senny
 
Nobody who writes about their ALEMBIC in this way was in any way ready to sell it, especially in light of having THIRTY-FOUR (!) stablemates.
 
PRICES are relative.  It seems just as inexplicable that used Alembics trade for fractions of their purchase price as vintage Fenders or Gibsons for many multiples of their original price . . . it's just the vagaries and whimsy of the market.  But they are hardly alone: In the acoustic market, you can buy used Collings, Santa Cruz, etc., for less than Martin or Gibsons, even Taylors.
 
But VALUE is just as subjective, but a lot more personal.  My BigRedBass would certainly sell at some price I'd invariably think was too low, because it's VALUE to ME is priceless.  These things are hard to put a $$$ value on.
 
I never complain about the new prices, as ALEMBIC's business is none of my business.  If I could afford 10 grand for a new Series, it would not be bought to trade later.  And I never complain about the used prices, as I CAN think about 3 or 4 grand for a used ALEMBIC.
 
But as my heart's involved, it really DOESN'T have to make sense!
 
J o e y
 
(Message edited by bigredbass on July 15, 2006)

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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2006, 01:12:41 PM »
Tony, I just got this second chance offer on your bass and it was through my ebay messages. I have asked the guy to send me more details. He or she is in Canada.....
 
 
Regarding my auction:  
1981 Alembic Series 1 Bass long scale w/ F2-B Preamp  
Item number: 180005362275  
 
I'm willing to speed the sale process, so please contact me A.S.A.P. via e-mail at: notravel247@cs.com and I'll provide you with further details about this.  
 
Thank you,  
stupidee  
 
FOR A QUICKER RESPONSE, PLEASE FORWARD THIS EMAIL TO MY HOME ADDRESS: notravel247@cs.com

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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2006, 01:49:42 PM »
it is a scam !! BEWARE!!!!
I cannot believe these horrible monsters!!
My bass is on my website at
http://www.senny.com

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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2006, 02:09:12 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2006, 06:54:54 PM »
Hi Tony, welcome to the board!
 
If I may add a few comments to those above.
 
First, my observations agree with Bob's (bsee), who is one of the most astute obersvers of used Alembic market prices in our forum.  As he stated, two years ago the average market price for a pre-1990 used S1 was less than $3,000.  Indeed $3,000 was the upper limit.  Since that time, prices have indeed tended to move up.
 
Second, many of the members of this forum watch used Alembic prices on Ebay and elsewhere daily and many have done so for quite some time.  We have watched the ebb and flow of the market; and we as a group tend to have a bit of a feel for where the market might be at any given point in time.
 
Third, over the last couple years, the average market price for a used F-2B went from a fairly steady $400, to an average of $550, and then back down to an average of $450.  A very wide fluctuation.  Indeed, the market fluctuates significantly week to week as the number of buyers and sellers fluctuates week to week.  Some weeks there are only a few basses listed; some weeks there are many.  A week earlier or later and the results of your listing may have been different.
 
And fourth, one factor that increasingly tends to put downward pressure on prices is the increasing factor of Ebay fraud.  We here in the group are constantly discovering and reporting fraud in Alembic listings on Ebay.  But dispite our efforts, the unfortunate fact is that folks are now much less likely to bid on Ebay because of the high number of fraudulent listings.  Less bidders means lower market prices.
 
Anyway, welcome again, and good luck whatever you decide to do.

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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2006, 10:17:29 PM »
Yo, Senny! Glad you still have your Alembic. Your posting prompted me to just say to the members here how much of a professional you are. Besides that folks, he is a mother on the bass. I've worked gigs with Senny. He is solid as a rock and he plays right in the pocket. It is a pleasure to listen at the board.  
i also suggest you pick up Holyland. It is a great cd. Some of the best bass tones I've heard lately. Great players and horns abound. I check in everyday here but don't post anymore. Now if you have a Hamer 12 on the block.... let me know!

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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2006, 11:45:37 PM »
Nice to hear you're still out there, danno. And welcome, Senny.

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« Reply #26 on: July 16, 2006, 05:12:33 AM »
Hey Danno,
Thanks for your support.To say you support in private is one thing, but to post that you have someone's back on a respected forum where you yourself are well respected proves that you have my back and are a class act. When Danno found out that i had a CD for sale, he purchased it without hesitation..When i found out about that his band (DOOMTREE)had new  CD that was was available, i went right over to Best Buy and grabbed one, and i am not only impressed with his playing, but very high standards he has with his gear and the way he conducts his life and business..
This is the type of camaraderie that we all must have..
Thank you DANNO, and everybody here..

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« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2006, 05:18:46 AM »
My 12 string Andromeda Bass

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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2006, 11:15:19 AM »
I have been looking for a nice used series one for quite some time. I have only in the last couple of years been in a position to afford one, despite playing for decades. This one rapidly went past what I could pay on Ebay. I highly value Alembic and other brands and have even toured the Alembic company.  
 
I don't appreciate someone posting an instrument on Ebay with no real intention of selling it.

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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2006, 12:18:02 PM »
It's very frustrating to me when people don't understand plain english..
I had every intention of selling my Alembic...
When i put it on Ebay, i quickly regretted what i had done. If someone had met my reserve, my Alembic would have been on the way to them..
Once an instrument is on ebay, and someone meets the reserve, the seller is bound by law to complete the sale..
No one met my reserve... and now in retrospect, i am glad that me reserve was not met, and i intend to keep it..so read back on all my posts next time before you make accusations that are unfounded....