Author Topic: Alembic Jazz Bass. (Read 2002 times)

jacko · « **Reply #60 on:** November 04, 2009, 01:13:57 AM »

Here's another Fender player who rarely stays in the background ... in concert in London a couple of years ago....

Graeme

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #61 on:** November 04, 2009, 05:10:56 AM »

That's not a Fender Jazz.

BTW, you can now buy a Fender at WalMart.

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=10232420

It's a game for some people, but that's where a company like Fender goes... A continuous path of mediocrity.

Another child becomes confused to someday learn that Fenders are cheap and crappy basses from a crappy company.

Look around at any town's local businesses today, and you will see huge box companies like WalMart killing smaller business.

Sorry fellas, I'll never support Fenders regardless who plays them.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on November 04, 2009)

serialnumber12 · « **Reply #62 on:** November 04, 2009, 05:44:08 AM »

Hey Toma hawk Marcus miller is going to pluck some Feathers outta your Hat for that...LOL!!!

jacko · « **Reply #63 on:** November 04, 2009, 05:54:15 AM »

It's still a fender and Stanley was really getting into playing it, and the point of posting the picture was to highlight the error in your earlier comment... Stanley would never be caught, without an Alembic period. Not in my lifetime..
The whole point is that even died-in-the-wool alembic players like stanley sometimes like to play a different instrument to get a certain tone or feel.

Graeme

BTW, what about your previous comment..... Sorry, this is my last post here... I said enough. ? ;-)

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #64 on:** November 04, 2009, 06:19:19 AM »

#12,

This has nothing to do with anybody's personal preferences. Marcus Miller, Stanley, or whoever...
Play what you can pay...

I joined the Alembic Club not The Fender Club.
How can I make myself more clear here?

Joining this site, represents my honest feeling about Alembic basses. I have no room to express any other basses with the same trust. It's just that simple. I don't play games with words. My Fender days are over. I did that already...

We had this discussion before about Fenders, and if people want them, they are available just as fast as a McDonald's hamburger on a major highway.

If you shop at Wal-Mart, they could be purchased there too.

This is reality. All jokes aside. WalMart kills those one of a kind special gem companies like Alembic.

Sorry, but if you want a cheap crappy bass at the cost of destroying Alembic, what kind of member are you?

Just who do you think you are talking too?
You're no friend of mine, I don't even know you!!!

So, for those who support Fender's fine. I joined the Alembic Club and support the business with meaning and heart. I would hate to see Alembic have a Going out of business sale over BS crappy guitars attracting new generations of children down the throats of corporate titans business models.

Those who fell to learn from history, are doomed for a repeat. There had been many people losing jobs and business because what is taking place. I believe, we can change this direction if we just start supporting local business.

This topic is not just about guitars, it's bigger than that...

Sorry if I offended anyone, but this is a very difficult topic in nature.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on November 04, 2009)

12stringwilson · « **Reply #65 on:** November 04, 2009, 06:30:33 AM »

Yet again fellas...it would appear we are taking away from the value of the forum.

Just who do you think you are talking too?
You're no friend of mine, I don't even know you!!!

This is the kind of crap that must be stopped.
There is no need to take personal shots at anyone here....is there?

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goop · « **Reply #66 on:** November 04, 2009, 06:35:35 AM »

I just read this entire thread...kinda like the car accident you can't look away from and I had to reply.

I am with the concensus on this one. I love Rickenbackers for their sound and feel. They are a quality instrument that have their place in music history. I am not a fan of Fender myself, but I think they have their place as well.

I think fenders are the most widely used and emulated basses. Was the Jazz not the very first electric bass? I think a greater respect is due here.

Didn't JE comission Status to build the Buzzard? Doesn't Marcus tell Fender what he wants on his signature model? When Mark King has Status design a signature model, isn't it set up exactly how he wants it?

If you are Rob Green, owner of Status and JE and MK are coming to you asking you to build unique basses for them, of course you are honoured and are thinking of giving it to them. I can't beleive they would expect, or accept these basses without paying. These relationships are no different from any other. They are based on respect. Paul McCartney did not use his free 4001 indefinitely because it was free.

By the way, does marcus play the exact same Japanese made model that his name is on? I believe Geddy Lee does not.

These artists are playing what they want, not what they are provided. Athletes get endorsements and are not necessarily playing with the exact equipment being sold to the public.

I am pretty sure Fender is a more profitable business than Alembic. Each company have their niche.

Hal, I agree with your words; But to pit one bass against another is simply juvenile.

BTW, the jazz bassed Alembic above is an outstanding looking instrument.

Colin

I think artists use

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #67 on:** November 04, 2009, 06:44:32 AM »

Wilson,

Don't get caught up on the few words I wrote, read the entire message, please read my message in context.

I don't think a great discussion takes everybody to agreement.

Being different is human, and it serves humanity best.

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on November 04, 2009)

georgie_boy · « **Reply #68 on:** November 04, 2009, 06:47:19 AM »

Well said Brent!!!
It's high time that this sort of talk was forbidden once and for all.
Certain members are guilty, and they know who they are!....Hal just loves Alembic...end of story!!......but, a certain European member has been very insulting and rude of late. Whether an Alembic customer or not, we need to stop this now.
Look how many people rarely post anymore, due to attacks from others, or just got plain fed up reading such crap!!

To name a few;
Whitecloud
Rami
Flax
David Fung

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #69 on:** November 04, 2009, 07:08:45 AM »

For now on, if I see a Fender or Fender like supporting discussion, I will not join in...

This is madness.

Have a good day everybody.

jacko · « **Reply #70 on:** November 04, 2009, 07:12:29 AM »

For now on, if I see a Fender or Fender like supporting discussion, I will not join in...

This is indeed madness Hal. Why remove yourself from the discussion just because you don't like a product or someone has disagreed with you? An alternate viewpoint is always valuable; it would be a shame if we lost yours.

Graeme

toma_hawk01 · « **Reply #71 on:** November 04, 2009, 08:12:12 AM »

Cat's meow and perfect this, perfect that...
Marcus Miller... being upset...

Who cares what other basses you play or what professional Artist play?

None of those guys pay my bills, nor have a impact on the music market place, nor the price of tea in China.

The only thing that excites me are Alembics.

If it's not an Alembic, I can personally care less what anybody thinks.

Call me an whatever you want, but when it's all said and done, you will never see me with a Fender strapped around my neck. It's not that I have something against people who play with Fenders, it just I would look pathetic supporting them, knowing what I know about them. Ignorance may be bliss for some people, so if this is the case, I can't fault them. But for me, knowing what I know, and from my own experiences, I wouldn't be able to look at myself if I crossed the line. Frankly speaking, Fenders are not even a challenge, nor can I express of having one isolated nerve being tempted.

You play what you want; eat what you want; drink what you want. However, this is my vessel and Soul I was honored to protect, and Alembic basses are the best there is... Everything else, is secondary.

I try real hard (very hard) to practice what I preach. This site is about Alembic guitars and basses (So I thought...) but if this site is about Fenders too, show me the fine print. Excuse me, if I am wrong, but if this site is about Fenders, then I am with the wrong site. If this is true, then will somebody please help me locate where The Real Alembic site is located, with The Real Alembic Supporters. I am not interested in discussing anything Fender. So please, will somebody help me please find The Real Alembic website if this is not the correct location!!!

I am not perfect, so if this is a Fender site, please forgive me for thinking I was supporting Alembic, when Fender supporters dominate this forum.

No more Fenders or Fender like objects, I am going crazy!!!

(Message edited by toma_hawk01 on November 04, 2009)

cozmik_cowboy · « **Reply #72 on:** November 04, 2009, 08:22:11 AM »

Was the Jazz not the very first electric bass?

No - the 1935 Audiovox was the first electric bass guitar. The Fender Precision was the first mass produced one, introduced in 1951. By the time the Jazz came out in 1960, it was also preceded by Rickenbacker 4000 (1957) the Gibson EB-1 ('53), EB-2 ('58) & EB-0 ('59), the H?fner 500/1 ('56), and no doubt several I'm missing.

Peter

sonicus · « **Reply #73 on:** November 04, 2009, 09:00:05 AM »

Perhaps then one can surmise that the Fender Bass was designed as the Bass for the Proletariat. Leo Fender wanted ANYBODY and everybody to be able to afford a Bass or Guitar. I think that that was the original design parameter.

goop · « **Reply #74 on:** November 04, 2009, 09:10:30 AM »

Peter, thanks for the clarification. I did confuse the precision with the jazz. I thought I had read the precision was the first electric bass and I am shocked to hear there was an electric bass design in the 30's. I thought Les Paul invented the electric guitar in the late 40's/early 50's and that the electric bass followed shorty thereafter. I am going to have to look the audiovox up.

Colin