Author Topic: Europa 5 & Rogue 6  (Read 744 times)

edwardofhuncote

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« on: November 29, 2014, 03:45:47 AM »
Couple eBay finds here, both look to be in pretty nice shape.  Looks like the seller is a pawn shop in Maryland.
 
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201227603499&alt=web
 
http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=201226788040&alt=web

bigredbass

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« Reply #1 on: November 29, 2014, 11:12:19 AM »
I really like that five, sustain block and stripe-y ebony fingerboard, nice touch.  Hard to go wrong with flame walnut.
 
I've always wondered what that axe with three pickups would be like  . . . .
 
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« Reply #2 on: December 01, 2014, 05:39:07 AM »
I'd be in full-crisis-mode if that Europa 5 were fretless... and I suppose it could be *made* fretless. It's just... I am trying to be good, and stay on course with my plan for a custom order.

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« Reply #3 on: December 01, 2014, 08:14:14 AM »
+ 1 on that Joey. Hard to go wrong with an Europa. If you want to know about a three pickup Europa, you need a chat with FC
 
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« Reply #4 on: December 01, 2014, 09:36:43 PM »
Well yes, but no:  Three MXY's, splayed like a Strat,  I've seen a G+L prototype of just such a thing that LF was working on at the time of his passing.  Never made production.
 
FC's wonderful Elan is laid out like a Stu Hamm, jazz/pbass/jazz, not what I'm thinking.
 
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« Reply #5 on: December 02, 2014, 01:00:13 AM »
I know this is not what you mean either Joey but it can be done. :-)
 
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2014, 05:07:50 PM »
Does anyone have a thought about a fair price for the 5-string Europa on this thread that was listed on eBay and is now retracted?

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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2014, 07:14:22 PM »
I thought 3K for the Europa was a fair price. It looked to be in excellent condition, and I was surprised it was on Ebay as long as it was.
 
If I didn't buy a Series 1 in October, I would have driven over to Dundalk in a flash!

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« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2014, 07:18:47 PM »
Did you get the Europa?

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« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2014, 10:39:54 PM »
I'd agree with Rob that for a 5-string Europa $3,000 was a fair price if they would have accepted that price.  I recently purchased a 96 6-string Europa in Maple from someone connected to the club for that price and personally felt it was a fair deal. As someone else indicated the seller appears to be a pawn shop in Maryland (Poplar Jewelry & Loan) with 2 stores. I don't know why the Europa was retracted (maybe the owner had second thoughts and/or came in to some cash) but the seller now has 0 items listed on E-bay and when checked out on the web one of their stores no longer has any items listed. If you're really interested, I'd give them a call Parkville, MD. 410-663-1458/Dundalk, MD. 410-285-2687

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« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2014, 05:22:12 AM »
Thanks everyone!  I thought it might be a fair price because of where it ranks on the hierarchy of Alembic models.  But I couldn't find any Europa models that sold on eBay or any other auction site to determine the typical price of a used 5-string Europa bass.  
 
I heard it was at a Pawn Shop in MD and called a month ago after it failed to sell on eBay the 1st round and then later noticed the same thing you did, in that they removed many of the items they had on their site.  They put it on eBay a second time and again it didn't sell.   I then wondered if it was set too expensive and also noticed a circular mark that looked unnatural by knob at the bottom of the bass and below the bridge and then I wondered if that was an issue.  I may give them a call again.  
 
How does a Europa differ from a Spoiler, Distillate, or Essence in terms of tone, playability, weight, overall quality, etc.?  I was planning to purchase one of these less expensive models if I found a nice, used 5 or 6-string?.but there are very few out there since I have been monitoring them online.
 
Thanks again!
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« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2014, 06:49:17 AM »
Pardon the hi-Jack.
 
Is there a link that gives more detail to the bass that Jazzyvee posted?
 
It looks like a freak of nature that has some awesome sonic capabilities, I can't take my eyes off of it and am curious about the control configuration . . . .

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« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2014, 08:42:49 AM »
It's gone?.just called and they said they sold it in the store.  He quoted when I asked him about the selling price I wanna say we got $3500, so take that for what it's worth from a pawn shop.

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« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2014, 09:49:27 AM »
Good! It was haunting my dreams, and threatening my resolve anyway!  
 
Tough break frankfive, but I'll find you another. =)

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« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2014, 10:23:28 AM »
Maybe these two basses will turn up here. I am at least hopeful they went to good homes.
 
Whether naivte' or sentimentality, I was a little sorry to see these two turn up in a pawn shop. I know firsthand life isn't fair, (Mom said so!) but just knowing how we Alembicans tend to be, I'd bet almost anything (other than my Alembic) these belonged to the same person, who obviously found themselves faced with a hard choice.  
 
Bittersweet thought really... someone's loss is another's joy. Could've been any of us. I hope they get another one day.