1978 small body with strange extra backplate

Started by Barend, October 02, 2026, 01:52:43 AM

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jazzyvee

I think in this case it that means, you accept the neck dive and find a way to play it, and enjoy it.

My series short scale has neck dive and when i bought it had a dunlop straplock on the upper half of the body like this. 
Whilst the neck dive is less using that point, i had got used to the way these basses naturally behave on a strap from a previous bass  so i put a standard schaller locking peg in the normal place and stuck with it.

That 'might' help with a longer scale small body bass. 
 Interestingly my Koa shorty does not dive past horizontal.
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Barend

Quote from: jazzyvee on Yesterday at 12:57:56 AMI think in this case it that means, you accept the neck dive and find a way to play it, and enjoy it.

My series short scale has neck dive and when i bought it had a dunlop straplock on the upper half of the body like this.
Whilst the neck dive is less using that point, i had got used to the way these basses naturally behave on a strap from a previous bass  so i put a standard schaller locking peg in the normal place and stuck with it.

That 'might' help with a longer scale small body bass.
 Interestingly my Koa shorty does not dive past horizontal.

Very beautiful! is that a maple top? How do feel about the pickup selector is in the way when slapping? Does it bother you or is it not so bad?
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jazzyvee

Yes, quite bland by Alembic standards of today but I like it.  Yes the pick up selector does get in the way and I am waiting for stock of the non pointed switches so I can change it. 
I don't do a lot of slapping and the way the bass hangs, I think my thumb hits the strings just in front of the neck pickup over he truss rod cover and my fingers pop the strings between the pickups close to the neck pickup.

But yes I do hit my fingers on it occasionally.
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jazzyvee

Yes, quite bland by Alembic standards of today but I like it.  Yes the pick up selector does get in the way and I am waiting for stock of the non pointed switches so I can change it. 
I don't do a lot of slapping and the way the bass hangs, I think my thumb hits the strings just in front of the neck pickup over he truss rod cover and my fingers pop the strings between the pickups close to the neck pickup.

But yes I do hit my fingers on it occasionally.
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mavnet

Quote from: edwardofhuncote on October 02, 2026, 05:09:21 AMThere are a small number of long-scale Series basses in this small body from the 70's.
I've got 2 of them, fretted and fretless. You get used to neck dives, and you also get used to that amazing fundamental. I have a hard time with shorter necks now; i end up hitting the tuning heads when I'm reaching for an F...

cozmik_cowboy

Quote from: FC Bass on October 02, 2026, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: jazzyvee on October 02, 2026, 11:14:27 AMI guess its some kind of recreational drug?
"Medicines kids, we're talking about medicines of course" (Keith Moon and Ringo Star)  ::) ;D

An actual quote from my 9th grade Health teacher:  "Awright, listen up, people;" (he taught Health because they aren't to actually hire coaches; that can only be a side gig to teaching something - Heath, PE, Driver's Ed, etc., and, as a coach, he of course started every statement with "Awright, listen up, people"........) "they's two kind of drugs.  They's good drugs your doctor gives you, and them's called 'medicine', and they's bad drugs that kills ya, and them's called 'narcotics'."
And that's all I know about such bad things - really!  I swear, yer Honor!

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cozmik_cowboy

Quote from: flavofive on October 02, 2026, 02:40:01 PM
Quote from: jazzyvee on October 02, 2026, 11:14:27 AMWell David, you may have just solved a lyric I didn't understand from a Steely Dan track "Hey 19".
"The Cuervo gold, the fine Columbian, makes tonight a wonderful thing". I guess its some kind of recreational drug?
Hey Nineteen - great song!

Yep - short answer, it almost certainly refers (or rather, referred) to weed.

Some interesting trivia, according to contributors on Hey Nineteen's page on Genius Lyrics (https://genius.com/Steely-dan-hey-nineteen-lyrics):  These days, most people would probably associate any drug references to "Columbia" with cocaine, but apparently this only really became an association after the movie Scarface from 1983.  Back when Steely Dan recorded this song in 1980 (and throughout the 70s before that), Columbia was actually far more associated with marijuana.  Apparently Donald Fagen even more-or-less confirmed it refers to weed during a live performance of the song.
Yeah, we immediately understood it to be weed then; Lumbo was weed - Coke was much more associated with Peru through the '70s and into the '80s; let us not forget Firesign Theater & "Uncle Sigmund's Peruvian Coco Powder"!

Peter (who wonders if he's the only one who misses Columbian cobweb weed)
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edwardofhuncote

I wonder how many of these there might be if we did a census? Maybe a dozen? Twenty? 

The rosewood one in this thread.
Mark has two, custom ordered new. 
The Fossen bass Tim had. 
The New Orleans player Michael knows has one.
Slawie has one in Australia. 
Rob bought one from another Club Member last year. 
I know of at least one more maple top in the Showcase, and a purpleheart topped '79 Michael spotted in NOLA. 

That's 9. There must be a few more. 

BeenDown139

QuoteI've got 2 of them, fretted and fretless. You get used to neck dives, and you also get used to that amazing fundamental. I

it's kinda nice having a lighter, small body long scale instrument, especially if yer gonna play it standing up for a long period.  a little neck dive kinda helps keep the bass from jumping out of my left hand, especially when i'm beating on the strings with my right.  my headless is just the opposite, i have to actively manage the angle of the bass with my left because all the mass is on the body and the neck will actually leave my left hand and float up if i don't keep hold of it in some fashion.

all my other five-strings neck dive to some degree.  it's not necessarily a bad thing.  i have to maintain a safety zone on my left side with the SII because i could knock a wayward midget out over there if i let go of the neck.  i've owned 15 (!) alembics over the years, it seems the only ones that balanced perfectly were the exploiter, spyder and the dragonwing that i currently own.  must be that big cantilever of wood that sticks out from under my right arm.  i take up a lotta space when i'm wearing that one.  it's almost 5 feet long from the end of the wing to the tip of the headstock.  what a monster!
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