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jazzyvee

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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2007, 11:56:46 AM »
That is some Elan Bass...
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2007, 12:12:17 PM »
Old style knobs, too.  It's the reflection of BRB, nice artistic concept.  You could name it Reflejo.

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« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2007, 12:22:51 PM »
. . . and that axe is WONDERFUL in purple.  Go ahead, gig with it !  Very interesting that it's a four with double P's:  We tend to think of that around here because of John Entwistle, but two other examples come to mind:
 
1)  The soapbar EMG's in the original Steinbergers actually hold a P-layout pickup (and still in EMG's catalog for retrofit into basses running Gibson-size humbucker rings)
 
2) And of course, Leland Sklar has his old battered PBass housing double EMG P's that's the veteran of countless major sessions.
 
. . . so you're in good company.
 
As much as I admire the various woods ALEMBIC uses, ultimately they just look  . . . brown to me.  Music is supposed to be colorful, so there I went.  NICE axe.
 
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« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2007, 11:29:39 PM »
Joey--
 
Fantastic looking bass!  I have no doubt it looks even better in person, as Mica said, but Mica's pictures, as usual, do show it to great advantage.  Glad to see you're talking about it in public.  I agree with Toby--I don't know how you held off talking about it until a year after you got it!  
 
Enjoy!
 
Eric

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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2007, 05:20:21 AM »
This is BEAUTIFUL. The only thing I don't really like about it is the narrow string spacing - but to each their own!
 
Congrats - she's a real beauty!

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« Reply #20 on: December 06, 2007, 10:13:48 AM »
Oh yes, it CERTAINLY had to have the big knobs to look right to me.  I basically wanted every ALEMBIC visual cue I could use, NO WAY I wanted it confused for anything else.  Even though see-through green probably isn't a usual ALEMBIC visual  . . . . !
 
Out of my five five-strings I run the gamut from the first model Yamaha BB5000 (VERY narrow) through the ALEMBICs to the A2 model BB5000 (WAY wide like all current Yamaha fives, spacing like a current TRB 5).
 
I don't worry much about the width as I'm a fingerstyle player, but the neck profile is much more important:  I like a flat oval feel, I can't stand a 'half-round' feel.  And I don't care much for a big flare-out as it goes up the neck.  The classic taper keeps the strings almost parallel the length of the neck, so it's my favorite.  Aside from action, I'm not real fussy about what a bass has to feel like, aside from the usual aversions to baseball bat necks, crummy electronics, and obscenely heavy axes.
 
The only problem I get on the narrow Yamahas is that the spacing only feels real tight at the nut, if I'm playing scale positions off the low C's, etc.
 
Thanks !
 
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« Reply #21 on: December 12, 2007, 08:46:16 AM »
Joey,
 
Just wanted to let you know that this one has gotten under my skin.... I find myself back here looking at the pictures every few days.
 
I hope you won't mind if I end up copying you once I scratch together the funds to have one built.  I might not pick green, but everything else is just awesome.
 
Toby

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« Reply #22 on: December 12, 2007, 05:32:07 PM »
Toby:
 
Go for it!  Be sure you contact Will about getting it together for you.
 
I hardly re-invented the wheel, so to speak, it just seemed to be my translation of a Fender into Alembic, particularly the white woods.
 
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« Reply #23 on: December 12, 2007, 05:50:07 PM »
Joey-
 
I've already spent a fair bit of time looking at Will's website, when the time comes he'll get a call.  I've also spent a fair bit of time dreaming myself- FC Spoiler started a Dream Elan thread a while back and I posted my thoughts about an Alembic Jazz about halfway down- I like your PJ idea better!

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« Reply #24 on: December 12, 2007, 07:36:14 PM »
I just like the P/J better:  The big fat P tone in that central sweet spot harmonically blended with the single-coilish bite of the J back by the bridge.  It's even more obvious with Alembic's 'old school' way of backing the front pickup to the end of the fingerboard and the aft pickup right at the bridge.
 
Double J's are OK for fours for that traditional Jazz sound, but they ultimately come up lacking for me, just not enough meat on the bone for my ears.  And with few exceptions, the traditional Jazz tone does NOT show up with most fives.  Fender ultimately had to go to Bill Lawrence to perfect the passive double J's they built for the Roscoe Beck Fives they recently (idiots!!) discontinued, one of the few fives that really did approach a classic, passive four-string J tone.  Plus I hate that single coil buzz!  
 
Of course with the Activators, it's silent.  And in a way, I knew the P would curb any tendency for all that Swamp Ash and maple to get that white wood honk/quack, a real possibility with an ebony fingerboard.  I felt like two J's (even though the J Activators are stacks) might allow that tone to rear its head.  I wanted it bright, but not end up with a bass Telecaster.  Seems to have worked.
 
You can never discount fads and fashion, but it's interesting that Fender also recently discontinued their fives with the five-string P pickup in the American Deluxe series.  I was surprised they got around to engineering a 3+2 P pickup 25 years AFTER Yamaha.  Better late than never, though I'm sure there's guys at Fender saying, See, I told you they'd never sell!
 
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« Reply #25 on: December 13, 2007, 10:20:14 AM »
OOOOMAWGO-OD
Cool bass Joey!
I am a HUUUUUUUUUGE fan of the PJ-set-up too as is installed on my A-bass.
I think there are dwelling some pictures of her somewhere here in this club.
Anyway: more thunderish lows on the way in Nashville!
 
Paul the bad one

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« Reply #26 on: February 16, 2008, 11:54:28 AM »
Superb!!!!!!!!
 
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« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2008, 07:38:13 AM »
Joey,
 
Would you happen to have any sound clips of this one?  
 
I'm in the planning stages with Will- I'm putting together something very similar (same woods/electronics).  I have a Mahogany bodied Signature equipped Rogue and I'd LOVE to hear how the neck through/ash/maple sounds with the signature setup and activators.
 
If you don't have sound clips, could you describe the tonal differences between the BRB and this one for me?  Ash is supposed to give you a mid-focused sound.... opinions after having lived with it for awhile?
 
Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.
 
Toby

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« Reply #28 on: April 03, 2008, 12:06:10 PM »
I have my first gig with my Elan 4 this evening with a blues band. Their bass player has gone to Florida for a  holiday so I offered to stand in.  
 
Taking the mesa rig walkabout and 4x10 cab
See how it sounds.
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« Reply #29 on: April 03, 2008, 04:13:15 PM »
Jazzy-
 
Yours is a maple body right?  The purple double-P?  Let me know how you like it and how the Mesa rig fits.  I somehow remember you saying you had a difficult time dialing in a good dub sound when you first received it.
 
I'm getting close to decision making time and would love any and all opinions.
 
Toby