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moonliner

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #180 on: August 10, 2014, 09:52:06 PM »
Mr 12, I have long admired your bass. It's really a stunning instrument. .... And Sonicus, I've been looking at pictures of your old bass for years. The stuff dreams are made of!
Edwin! I love all the work you did on your Starfire. Very inspiring! Are the magnets positioned like the others with the wide side on the top? Mica and I noticed on the early stages of Phil's bass he had the wider side on the G string side and were thinking of putting my pickups in that position.  
Thanks for sharing all the amazing pictures of your basses.

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #181 on: August 10, 2014, 10:04:35 PM »
Keith , Thanks , that is meaningful for me .  
         Edwin , I must comment __ that you did a fine job when you did the work on that instrument .

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #182 on: August 10, 2014, 10:38:39 PM »
Well, I can take credit for only so much of it. Matt Bergdahl of Woodsong's Lutherie installed the pickup rings (and took forever making them, cursing me good naturedly the whole time for the amount of effort it took to match the curvature of the top of the bass. The bill for that was higher than the cost of the pickups. If I had it to over again, I'd probably go the swimming pool route (sorry for the pun) and install the humcanceller on the front as well.) He also installed the hardware for me. Interestingly, although he was familiar with Alembic and grew up in the Bay Area, he was completely unfamiliar with the Grateful Dead. I loaned him a few CDs and a month later he was relating minutiae from the different eras of recordings over at Archive.org.  
 
However, I did do all the drilling and installation of the electronics as well as the assembly of the electronics, which were pretty much a random, not quite complete, bag of parts when I got them. It was a fun project, after I got the filter cap values right. Initially they were off by a couple orders of magnitude, which meant I was almost in the megahertz range, but that problem was easily rectified. I'm considering adding a master volume to the horn next to the pickup selector switch.  
 
The pickups are with the wide section over the E string. I flipped the neck pickup around (the bridge pickup is not quite symmetrical as far as the mounting bars go, so it wouldn't fit in the ring in the other orientation) and noticed less of a  difference than I would have expected. I switched it back. I would think that I'd want the wide side under the G string to make it more equal the E string because of the difference in string excursion, but it really doesn't seem to make much of a difference at all. I'm sure that Old #12 is similar: not a bad note on the instrument. I'm going to have to put hearing that bass in person in my bucket list. Be prepared for a visit sometime!
 
Of course, I feel like I'm waiting, biding my time, for the perfect Alembic to show up. It's possible that Jazzyvee might be playing it right now.

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #183 on: August 15, 2014, 02:03:55 AM »
Hi Mica!
 
How's the pickup and pickup ring situation?  
 
I have so many questions.... :-)
Fingerboard? Ebony headstock laminate? That beautiful tailpiece you suggested, has that been made yet?  
Have you read Galadrielle Allman's book about her father yet? It's really a beautiful read.

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #184 on: August 15, 2014, 01:21:30 PM »

The fixture and test cut success for the pickup ring. Next stop, Bird's-eye Maple  
 
 
 
And now with Ebony facing veneer (still needs carving in this pick, but it's very black. In fact, it's a bookmatched front veneer. To get the blackest possible, it need to be narrow. So you'll have to look *very* closely to see it, but it's a bookmatch.

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #185 on: August 15, 2014, 01:31:42 PM »
That is so great! Bless you!
 
I know I was being silly, but Galadrielle's book is really a great read..... If you're into the Allman Brothers.  
 
Thanks again. I so appreciate the pictures.

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #186 on: August 22, 2014, 04:37:45 PM »
Hi Mica,  
 
Dare I ask if there is any exciting news this week?

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #187 on: August 26, 2014, 09:07:53 AM »
This is a fun thread to follow.
 
Moonliner, could you list all of the changes you are making to the bass?

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #188 on: August 27, 2014, 12:57:02 PM »
Hey WDead!  
Let's see.... New headstock (as you can see). Ebony fingerboard with red side LED's. Bridge with brass sustain block. Control cover and pickup ring. Trapezoid pickups, and anniversary electronics. I think that's it for now, but I have other long term plans.

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #189 on: August 27, 2014, 01:22:32 PM »
This looks like it is coming along great !  Will you power the electronics with just battery power or will there be an adaptation to utilize the Alembic 5 PIN system?

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #190 on: August 27, 2014, 01:27:59 PM »
It is interesting how the  picture gremlin: ran off with #12's ,mine & Edwin's pictures in this thread ! >

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #191 on: August 27, 2014, 02:22:30 PM »
Yeah, I noticed all the cool pictures disappeared. Odd.
 
It'll be powered by the little blue box.

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #192 on: August 27, 2014, 02:41:24 PM »
Blue box power is a good idea !

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #193 on: August 29, 2014, 01:43:08 PM »
Hello Mica,
 
Any progress to report this week?

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Re: Keith's Starfire Project Bass
« Reply #194 on: September 05, 2014, 04:53:11 PM »
Maybe this week?